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A Sticking Point or SP is an issue you CONSISTENTLY run into.

It is NOT a point where you get stuck with ONE SPECIFIC GIRL.

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I keep getting LMR whenever I bring girls back to my place. This has happened at least 10 times already! What am I doing wrong?
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I got LMR with this one girl! What do I do?
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If you have not already gone out and practiced enough to have a real Sticking Point from meeting an ABUNDANCE of women, YOU DO NOT DESERVE TO POST HERE.



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 24, 2010 12:22 pm 
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So this girl i work with has asked me to stay at her place from the 26-28, because her SPAM are all out and shes gonna be alone. So she asked me if i could keep her company.

Give me examples of how you would approach this, I have been gaming this girl on and off since we work together, and shes attracted to me. But help me turn this weekend of sitting around watching films into a weekend of raw pussy-pounding action...

Alcohol is out of the question since i dont drink, but what are some other things i could do to kill the sullenness and create sexual tension.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 24, 2010 12:40 pm 
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Marijuana? Its an aphrodysiac...

Other that that dude... create a bond.. create kino... put ur arm around the sexy beast for god's sake...


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Wow what an opportunity you have here! Just keep doing what you're doing and increase the sexual tension slightly such as hair smelling, get even closer and neck smelling.

It's all gotta be done in small increments to get her so turned on she'll be begging for you to pound her pussy! :lol:


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yeah, you guys are right. I was overthinking things too much. I got this. I can do this.

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Cool man, shoot us a report afterwards and let us know how it went :)


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Wow what an opportunity you have here! Just keep doing what you're doing and increase the sexual tension slightly such as hair smelling, get even closer and neck smelling.

It's all gotta be done in small increments to get her so turned on she'll be begging for you to pound her pussy! :lol:
Anyone ever tell you that you are smelling women far too much? lollll had to be said, sorry


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Have you got laid yet? Didn't think so..


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girl asked me to stay at her place
shes gonna be alone
She wants to fuck.

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fucking hell... i got serious escalation anxiety... i dont even know why, like the more i think about it now, the more pissed i get at myself for choking, but in the heat of the moment, i couldnt move in for the kiss, worst part is that i HAVE k-closed with her before...

i dont even know what to say, i anticipated it too much and blew it... my thoughts got the best of me

FUCKING HELL

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At the same time, its not a completely easy game, when shes not drinking she can be very hard to game, imo she becomes shy, even though she says shes not, the whole time at her flat, she wouldnt hold eye contact, she would just look down, even when she would talk to me. Called her on it, and she refused, tried to pull get her to face me by grabbin her chin and she pulled away, and acted embarrassed, complemented her on her eyes to try and get her to look at me, and she said she doesnt do eye contact. Which is true, the only times this girl has been confident enough to do eye contact, has been when shes drunk...

And for kino, its a little more complex than simple escalation because i have had tons of kino with this girl, i think to the point that it is starting to lose its effect, even though when she was drunk once, she was ready to go, however then i put her down easy (i made a thread about that a while back). I think that she becomes very insecure when i create sexual tension for some reason, she has always responded positively to my kino, but now shes calling me on it, even though she still lets me do it. But smoothly escalating with her is not as easy as it is with other girls, I think i have to be direct, to game her, but... fuck thats where i choked.

i think shes put me into the "make him wait" zone... fuck, or maybe now im ljbf, idk, whatever...

im gonna take a step back from her... get too close to the sun and you will burn. It will give me a chance to get my pieces back into place, and it will make her crave me, she obviously wants/likes my attention, now im gonna take that away for a while...

pretty much we built tons of rapport, so it wasnt a complete waste, she said that here in madrid shes not in her "comfort zone" that back home in london, shes more herself, more confident and outgoing, w/e though

im gonna step back, game other girls, there are a few more where i have less rapport, so it should be easier to k-close them, most of them get back from x-mas break around the 2nd, and there are a few more, sticking around here, plus im gonna start sarging at clubs, so gonna work to make sure, bullshit like this doesnt happen again

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i just had an epitomy...

I wake up 5am, because i have a sore throat and a mild cold, which makes it hard to sleep. The benefit to this is that the dream I just had is very vivid in my mind. In this dream i dreamt, that i was dreaming (dont you love those dreams?). I dreamt that i was sharing a bed with this girl (spooning) and i was having very vivid dreams. Strange dream... But when i wake up (in real life, not the dream), the first thought that came to my mind was "isnt it strange how you tend to have more vivid dreams when you share the bed with someone..." Then I realized, thats not a bad line to get a girl to spoon with you, and thus get more intimate...

And then it hit me.

The reason WHY all of this failed, First off, not sure if i mentioned it, but i ended up staying at hers for 2 nights rather than 3, and separate. I had other things come up and what not. And i thought about how her behavior between those two nights was very different. On the second night, like i mentioned, she kept more distance, and little eye contact. However on the first night, she still kept little eye contact, but she always stayed next to me. And, she kept laying over, saying how she was so tired. This girl has told me before, how much she loves spooning. Now i was so hung up on the game the first night, so damn focused on following, the escalation ladded into sex and what not, that i DID NOT read her cues, and thus missed so big chances. On the second night it wouldnt matter what i did, because she was freezing me out, punishing me i guess you could say, for not giving her what she wanted. Thats the reason why she mentioned sex SO LOUDLY, but wouldnt let me escalate. She probably, would have slept with me, had i spooned with her. The way she asked to stay at hers, implied sex.

Now for why i choked, thats an easy one. Given the situation, the only way i could turn things around on the second day, was to steal a kiss (yes, i have k closed with her before, but that was a while back). But thats not quite my style. I basically tried this routine i read here (something i never do), where you tell her you have something to give her (appropriate bc of christmas), you have her hold her hand out and close her eyes, then you grab her hand and kiss her... now on paper, it sounds dandy and clever... but when you get down on it, this move is kinda AFC, at least for my tastes, not only that, but it puts a lot of pressure on the "what if she opens her eyes at the wrong time." Normally the frame i have for kissing and sex, is that the exp, is mutual, and this for of stealing a kiss, is idk... like a cheap gimmick, because giving gifts is supplicative imo, so it puts you in the wrong frame for the kiss. So the whole time, i had her with here eyes closed, this kept running in the back of my mind, and the fact that she was sitting, and i was standing, made it hard for me to act. She even called me on it and said, "i thought you dont give gifts to girls you are not dating," i replied, "well, if you dont want it, ill give it to someone else," i remember she told me "idk, its just... i dont like recieving gifts from others, even if it IS a small one..."


So..... Moral of the Story,

Dont get so hung up on game theory and do what feels natural, the first thought that comes to mind, just do it. If it blows up in your face, just do some damage report, or if its that bad, just fuck it, and move on. Remember the most important this is to capitalize on opportunities.

now for some manly inspirational quotes to prove my point:
"Hesitation creates gaps. Boldness obliterates them. Move swiftly and surely."
"Audacity separates you from the herd"
"Lions circle hesitant prey"
"Going halfway dig the deeper grave, DO NOT negotiate with your desires"
"The Bolder the Better"
in other words BE BOLD, these are all from 48 Laws of Power btw...

so now what i plan on doing, ill be seeing her, in a few hours actually, pretty sure shes still interested, so despite some bumps here and there i still have an op. I have learned through the years that the girls that send me a text on New Years (right at 12) are the ones who are most interested, and the ones who send you a quirky "happy new years" on facebook, are the shy ones, or the ones who are just interested. Anyways, normally i walk home with her every once in a while during lunch, and after work. Not always, but if im up for it i do. Here in Spain, we do the goodbye, kiss, kiss thing... So I'll just steal a kiss that way, it always sends tehm for a loop, because, even though its been done, (im sure it has). Its never expected. If she reacts negatively (which i doubt), then ill freeze her out... No big

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dont be anxious to escalate physically.. but yo, she wants to fuck so why would you be anxious? just do what feels right man...its all in your head


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Dont get so hung up on game theory and do what feels natural, the first thought that comes to mind, just do it. If it blows up in your face, just do some damage report, or if its that bad, just fuck it, and move on. Remember the most important this is to capitalize on opportunities.
GOLD ADVICE to new PUAs. Absolute gold, can't stress enough.

The Game seems to be very good at getting men to open girls and start conversations but it can FUCK new PUAs over because they open and they turn inward trying to remember things to say, all the lines and routines from the game. This is normal I think, and part of getting the theory internalized 'till it's natural. BUT so often opportunities are missed by new PUAs coz they think they should say something and in the same moment think, "thats not the next step in The Game, in my book on my cheat sheet!" (Myself included)

The Game Should COMPLIMENT your pick up skills, not become you. When starting out use parts of the game that come naturally into your mind, don't be a stammering robot that can't remember routines. (Though some pain is part of learning).

And don't miss out on capitalizing on the moment because it's not something you have memorized. If you can't remember what to do, do what Manly says and wing it!


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Good post Manlyspirit.

Even though you never got what you wanted from the situation, stay positive, because you have learnt a valuable lesson.

People get way into Game theory, and let it take over their lives.

Use The Game as a confidence booster, to get rid of approach anxiety, to break boundaries.

This is exactly why I don't agree with people using canned routines, over and over, it's generic, it's boring.

Build game around your real life, use bits and parts people, you will be successful.

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