jeez this is so fukin annoying!!!
I have tight game, I get nums like hell, I flirt with so many galz
only damn prob is when I get to the thing I only get hand jobs!!!
I mean we hook up for hours, I try to take her patnies off, she refuses, and no matter how consecutive I am , she wont take em off, and it happened to me like 4 galz in a row!!!
I mean wtf?! then they give me hand jobs which is great, but I wanna fuck em' , and I aint get the energy to use freezouts.

any suggestions???

tnx

You said you kiss them for hours?

In a typical situation when I take a girl to my bed for the first time I do not kiss for hours and then move on to sex. I would move faster than that. I would begin undressing as soon as kissing begins.

Look up LMR (last minute resistance) if you try to remove clothes and get told no then take all your attention away from her. When she pulls you back in build back up slowly and try again. If she gives more LMR just repeat. If you can't get past it then go to sleep - no cuddles, or drop her home.

Punish her by removing your attention when your not getting what you want.

Hope this helps.

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AFC4LYFE

yea dude I know all this material from wayyy back , prob is I dont have the energy to put all the damn effort LMR takes.

BUT, today I tried to use freezouts (I'm into pickup for like 4 years, and just today I realized the power of freezouts) it worked like charm!!!

I mean I took my attention from her[as soon as she told me no again- that she didnt want us to fuck ] , I went to my facebook and said "look I dont want you to do things that will make you regret, we dont have to fuck we can talk!" and she was like "nooo come here [back to the bed] and I said nahh just drop it and she insisted me to fuck her! she was like you got condoms? close the lights and the t.v and come to the bed...rofl...charm it is. FC :]

regards ,

High five

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AFC4LYFE

Good work bro! Freezeouts work amazing. Next time try rubbing her pussy through her pants while your making out. Then move to through her panties. Then take everything off. If you get LMRed at any time through this, a freezout will be that much more effective since she will be really wound up

The rotary guy has the points.

if you touch it through clothes, it's less of a step to slide UNDER them, THEN slide them off. it's all about taking small enough steps to make it look fluid.

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