So, I met this absolutely gorgeous HB9.5 at a buddies house a couple of weeks ago. Just me, her and 3 other ppl chilling, smoking, drinking playing some wii bowling. In this time I get to chat with her for maybe 5-10 min. Not much time at all. So she leaves and after she leaves my buddy tells me that she thinks im cute and he should give me her number. I get her number and text her the next day to bs, we talk for about 15 min. I called her about 2 nights later and she was in omaha and wanted to call me when she was on her way back to town so she would have somebody to talk to. She calls me at 1am that night and we bs for about 1 1/2 hours, good conversation, some flirts and some negs.

Throughout the next week or so we chat on occasion and continue the flirtatious chain texts. This last friday she calls me with the old, "I need ur help with this....." line. Which I thought was something I was supposed to be doing. I assist her with her issue and tell her to call me later. That night Im at my favorite wknd hangout, which just happens to be next to her apt building, and she calls me stating that she cant hang out bc she has to go hang out with the bf that she "kinda" got back together with. So, I say thats cool and she says we should hang out the next night. 20 min later she calls me and asks if I would walk her to her car. As luck would have it one of the rose selling ladies that are always in the bars walks by as im talking to her. So, I grab a rose and go to meet her at her apt. I give it to her and she tells me how sweet i am, blah, blah, blah and we bs for a bit and she takes me back to the bar.

The next night we hang out and she says that she told her bf that she got a rose, he says that he knows who it was from and tells her to tell me to back off. I didnt know what to think of this. Should I back off or what, i dunno?. That convo doesnt last long and we are just chilling drinking and making fun of the drunkards walking on the street below. Im flirting with her pretty good, i think, with some negs and kino, that she appeared to receive well. I even busted some tricks out that I got from the movie, Poolhall Junkies. I won some kisses on the cheek that I turned into kisses on the lips by turning my head. She didnt even say anything about me turning my head to get her to kiss me. Well, she says she has to take me home bc she thinks that her bf would show up sometime in the morning. When we get to my house I get one last kiss and invite her in for a beer, she comments that im gonna get her in trouble, she says yes but then I tell her that i forgot that i didnt have any beer. I prolly couldve tagged it that night, but she was drunk and had popped a hydrocodone abt an hour earlier. I really did have beer but im not about to take advantage of a girl that is pretty trashed. Anyways, she tells me not to call her the next day bc shes got family in all day and would prolly be with the bf, she says she would call me.

This is where im stuck. I dont know what to do from here. I know she said that her bf wants me to back off, but I dont know what she wants. I cant figure out where I stand and what I should do from here. Im a noob when it comes to this stuff. So, any help is appreciated.

First of all, you seem to be doing a lot of stuff for this girl, listening to her bs and all, walking her, buying her roses. But you haven't got any yet ... If you keep doing that you ll soon find yourself labeled "mr. nice guy" and you know where that road is leading to... the dreaded LJBF-land.

Now first thing you need to find out is wether she s using you to get to her BF, and if she is just forget about it. But if she s actually attracted to you, then all you need to do is help her find an excuse to cheat on her BF. Her being too drunk is actually perfect, a lot of times girls will pretend to be more trashed than they really are so they can justify themselves the next morning.
If you ve already got pasted the kissing stage, make sure next time you see her you intensify your flirting by using kino heavily and if she backs down use some freeze-out routines.
One more point, never let her talk to you about her boyfriend. Whenever she brings him up tell her you don't wanna hear it, maybe even act pissed off about her mentioning him (at this point the reaction you want is her apologizing to you for refering to him, which would be a major IOI). worked for me in the past even with girls i had just met.
hope this helps, keep me updated and GOOD LUCK

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To reitterate, the whole thing stunk of AFC Behaviour.

First off, your chatted with her like one of her "girlfriends" for the first two weeks. The number is there to setup the meeting, not to chit chat about your day while you paint your toe nails.

Then she starts the shit tests:
- She calls you and says she can't go out, because she "has" to go out with the b/f she "kinda" got back with. LESSON: There is no kinda, he's your competition. She just said he's winning but your not out. You should have Supremely DLV'd her by telling her "Well actually it's NOT OK. Because I made time in my schedule to hangout with you and your disrespecting me by pulling this last minute disorganized crap. Sort your life out the next time you even think about asking me if I want to hang."
- She asks you to walk her to the car. Another shit test. Like the lap dog you came running. So you prove: a) You're at her call b) You devoted time to her that she blew off and now she's just jerking you around c) You telegraph interest because you came to see her if only for 5-10 minutes.
- The Rose. HOLY SHIT! I Can't believe I read you did that. I'm surprised you didn't stop by the chocolate shop for a heart shape box too. This isn't even AFC behaviour, its a bAFC move.

At the Bar:
- The b/f is a gorilla. Problem is he knows what you look like. Solution: Anytime you meet with her make sure its one-on-one and avoid going out with 'her' group (Cause he'll probably be there).
- You've gotta learn AMOG-Destroying to disarm him if you ever run into him again.
- You DHV'd some credit back with the pool moves, but I'm wondering if she's stuffed you in the LJBF zone yet...
- The kiss sounds so-so, she could very well be teasing you with it right now.

So you go back to your house: -After all that happend, I don't know how you did it but you reached S2 with her LMR comment. She was 'Pacing Her Reality' and her comment was pure textbook.
- Good move with the beer to get her in the door. You accomplished what you needed. Getting her in the door.
- Good move not taking the drunken girl card. She would Reverse-Rationalize so fast with that act. And use it to breakup with her bf, leaving you and him to fight it out while she went off for some other dick.

Overall:
- She wants to breakup with the boyfriend. SEARCH: Boyfriend-Destroyers.
- Stop acting like an AFC.
- Learn how to be Alpha (Or at least look like it)
- READ THE BASICS! Everything I critiqued was basic level stuff.

you're acting like a total AFC here dude. You're putting up with all of her shit and she's spitting hardcore game at you that you're supposed to be spitting instead. when she tells you she has to hang out with her boyfriend she wanted to go AMOG on her and DHV her by qualifying/passing her shit test.

With the kiss she didn't complain but you haven't taken it farther at all or created more tension. A freeze out won't work too well because she can just go back to her bf. What she wants from you is for you to DHV to her why you're a better match than her bf, why you'll treat her better, and why you're going to take her on a wild adventure that nobody before has.

Just like you, she's not going to buy a new car before she test drives the old one, it's just how it works...

good luck and you're not completely in the LJBF zone yet but you're in serious danger of being so. As for the boyfriend, make sure how he knows about and what the danger is to you but be sure to be AMOG and C&F about it. if you seem intimidated you're automatically dropped

Thanks for your thoughts on my shituation.

I'm desperately trying not the do the AFC thing, which has been my thing as long as I can remember.

I'm very new to this whole PUA thing, so all of your input is very much appreciated.

Should I cut off contact for a couple days or a week or so to maybe make her think that she did something wrong. We have had some sort of contact almost every day, so by ignoring her she would think she screwed up and try to DHV to me?

Don't ignore her completely (She's a HB9.5 she can find others). But give off an image of a "Man in demand".
If tommorow she wants you to stop and chit-chat just say something abrupt but friendly like "Hey can we do this another time? I gotta be somewhere".
If she says yes, YOU SET THE TIME/PLACE to coinside with YOUR BUSY SCHEDULE.

As I pointed out in my first post, you could also NEG her by saying "Your not gonna flake out on me like last time? I didn't appreciate that."
And if she pulls the same shit, nail her ego to the wall with my advice above.

She didnt ditch me the first time. She called and said she wants to hang out but her bf gets mad bc she always ditches him when he has his kids.

ok dude.. that's the que for you to step it up a notch. she wants an out but doesn't want to be alone.. she's with a guy who has kids already.. i'm not suer how old you are but this definitely sounds like she wants and escape

Check this out. Last night at about 1:30 she called me bc her bf wanted to know what she told me about him knowing about the rose and stuff. What is this about? Is it just me or is he getting paranoid? It also sounds like hes not very trusting. How can I use this to my advantage, if at all?

tell her you don't appreciate it when she calls you about her bf in the fucking middle of the night.. then start talking about the fact that her bf gets her this far(calling people in the middle of the night) with his jealous behaviour. (girls don't like jealous behaviour )