Hi guys. Tonight i realised something really big. I finally had my eyes open and realised that i am affraid of taking that first step to kissing the girl. I think this is soo big because it keeps me away from where i want to be at the moment in my life, in other ways HUGE sticking point/problem!

Basicly tonight i went out shopping with a wonderful female person that i feel i have a fantastic connection with, really LTR material.

We went shopping for pillows and stuff for my new empty apartment downtown city-core.
After that we shared shushi and kept talking for a while.

PS: We been out before, talking alot about everything etc. The thing is that she happens to be one of the best good looking people in the whole city so she really has a lots of offers (she ditched a barbeque party with friends for shopping with me)

After food (which was great) she found out that her next for buss home leaves in 2,5 hours, so we agreed that she will help me with pillows and stuff that we've bought earlier (BIG HINTS GIVEN HERE). So we went back to my new place (she doing that basicly she said common make a move on me lets close this deal already. She puts a shield on every guy that want to get to know her and i broke through it, so it was really suppose to be the day.

All the time we stayed there i was just wussing out like a big PUSSY! We had a pillow fight, we played with my juggling balls, kino games etc. Ahhh it was such a pain, every time i was going to go for it i chicked out because i was hoping for some perfect moment to drop down from heaven. Jesus, i chicked out a moment after a moment, SHE EVEN PUT AN ALARM ON 10 MINUTES BEFORE I WAS SUPPOSE TO WALK HER OUT! In the end i lost all confidence in kissing, prob. because of this negativity from being a chicken in the begining.

I was just so affraid to escalate to kissing it was sooo weird because all the kino was there. FUCK! So frustrating.

Now i sat down and thought about this and found out that i actuallt have a problem K-escalating when theres no alcohol involved (when i am drink alcohol i am just smooth and not affraid to take a chance, but without i feel stuck!)


Of you ever had a problem with kissing or a huge sticking point, how did u break through it, because i really want to solve this out!!

Thanks so much already for reading this long post. Feel free to share ur experiences and share advises!

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"Do not be scared be of action, be scared of in-action" - Winston Churchill.

I think the best advice for you would be to go for the kiss the instance you even slightly suspect the girl wants you to kiss her. When I was younger (and this is even before I found out about game), I used to worry about going in for the kiss and whether or not the girl wanted me to kiss her... Only to realize the next day that she was coming on to me super strong and I was completely oblivious to it (and blew all my chances with the girl by not kissing her)

I only seemed to be thinking about kissing a girl (and worrying if she was ready for it) when she was already giving me signals that I could go in for it. So I decided to go in for the kiss whenever I even remotely thought it would be ok... The worst that can happen is she can turn her cheek. But if you are in the same boat I used to be in, the women will never turn their heads... And you will start realizing that you can make a move for the kiss much sooner in the interactions than you initially thought was possible

Best of luck to you

One idea I got from Mystery in The Game is when he turns his face to the side and points to his cheek without saying anything, as if to say "you can kiss me here". After they kiss me, I say "now I suppose you wanna kiss me huh? jeez" and basically bust their balls about it. Then I'll say something like "alright come here" while at the same time leaning into her to give her a quick kiss on the cheek before she can process what I said. Afterwards I say "was it good for you too?" as I imagine puffing on a cigarette (implying sex...maybe she'll also get a visual image on this).

Relax with her at one point. Start acting less and talking less. Look her in the eyes and be smooth.

Just keep inspired by the fact that if you don't kiss her, you'll wind up in the friend zone.


NOOOOOOOO!!!!! FRIEND ZONE!!!!!!!!!!!!

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If you are not a PUA, you are a noob.

Thanks a lot guys. I really agree with almost everything u mentioned. I been thinking a bit of what i should do to solve this problem that i have, and i think i see a way(s) out.

1. I need to get more extreme with the girls that i meet, and escalate much faster then i am used to do, like times x 2 (i know i can create an amazing connection with most of new people i meet, simply because i am interested in their personality)
I believe this is called "cavemanning", or running the train.

2. I agree with Dan and Juan, i should think of the friendzone like a nazi gasscamp or something so i feel like shit if i dont escalate (which i really do SPAM since i pretty much stripped down my pants and showed my giant pussy in front on her). I should try to pull the trigger even when the gun in not loaded. Espesially guys at my age are often clumsy on making first moove so i may even score attraction points there.

I actually dont worry about the routines, since the intent behind is more important than the way it happens. There was absolutely no issue with the sexual tension, we were practicly staring in eachothers eyes in totalt silence, without talking in my apartment, with all this space between us and i just had no clue how to kill it.

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"Do not be scared be of action, be scared of in-action" - Winston Churchill.

You can also use this. Whenever going in for the kiss with the girl and your not sure if shes ready for it or not and she turns her head simply give her a little kiss or perhaps a hickey on the neck. It works like a charm if you feel like you've built a pretty strong connection with her and it will get her all excited and horny for the makeout. Try it out.

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Cut the shit, time to fuck.

i am not master sir, but this happend to me at the beach not too long ago with some blonde chick. here is what i told myself after i pussied out. she later told me anything could had happened, it was at night, at the beach, and ioi's where flying. heres my quote for myself: " i rather get rejected and get told no then to ever again let such an opportunity pass, i feel like such a little puss i rather get rejected then to ever again go home and feel like "shit" cuz i did not have enough balls to make a move when it was all clear"

not expert advice, but real heart advice

they love man who take charge, and go for what they want, specially if shes all over you the way she was.

check out gunwitch, i think he is what you need.

basically, make the ho say no, if she didnt outright reject you, shes okay with kissing. of course, dont force yourself on her, move in slowly (smelling her hair, swipe something off her face etc)

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Lets Get The Girls.