I really don't know what it is but I always have the problem of not knowing when to "pull the trigger" and kiss/hook up with a girl, I am a good looking guy, I'm very confident, I have a lot of female friends, I'm popular at my school, (girls usually introduce themselves to me) but this part of my game is slacking, I literally had a girl tell me today that "she went to this other guy cause I didn't make a move" I was disappointed in myself, which is why I came to you to ask what I should do so that this mistake never happens again, PLEASE ANYONE HELP MEEE

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Well, i had a kind of the same problem.

A question first: the fact that you never closed a girl, is it because you didn't feel like the timing was good? or with other words, you tought that the girl wasn't attracted enough to you?

Well, the fact is, some girls kiss much faster then most people think. especially in the athmosphere of a bar.

First of all, it also have a lot to do with frame. if you're gaming a girl, make sure that you start confident, that you tease her frome time to time, and kino (touch) her quit often. The frame you have to set is "THAT SHE ALREADY WANTS YOU, AND THAT SHE IS ALREADY ATTRACTED TO YOU". just think it all the time when she is with you. you'll act like she is attracted to you, you'll show confidence and be alfa, so that she actually WILL BE ATTRACTED. with this frame, it's easier to kiss her because "which girl would ressist a kiss from the guy she wants?"

Secondly, you should have a 3-sec rule with a "fuck it i do it" attitude. Imagine you're sitting with this girl somewhere: in a pub, in the parc, at home, doesn't matter where but you isolated her. you might be talking or doing whatever PUAs do, but then you have to use 3 sec rule. think very quick "i must do this in three seconds. fuck it whatever the results might be, I DO IT, NOW!!" and BANG, you close her.

a good test if she wants you is grab her hand. if she grabs back, and holds your hand, you know you're IN for the close. Altough this test is not necessairy.

Make sure that you have her physically attracted to you before you close her. kino (=touch) her a lot, gambler has a film during an hour about how to kino propper on bristollair, it really learned me a lot.

in clubs, kiss closes might come in even 2 minutes,especially on the dance floor, where the music is loud, the girls are drunk and where it is crowded. just make eye contact, open with something cocky(funny), KINO A LOT!!! (it's way easier to kino in a club. the music is loud, so you have to be closer to each other if you want to hear what to others say, and people are horny. the "personal bubble" is also way smaller because it's so crowded)., then just say some random shit (but not too random), but keep on kino-ing alot (and variate with kino, so she feels the excitement of touches more and on different places) and have a good body language. Then stop, dont say anything, look in her eyes and/or to her lips, and when she looks back, then BANG close the HB!!!!!

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Nice reply, well I have closed multiple girls before, but NOT AT MY CHOOSING, the girl would always initiate the kiss first lol, so yuh I want to kiss close on my own terms, Im confident with talking to women, I have perfected my kino routines, I just have problems kiss closing and also sex closing (which is another big thing for me)

so keep the replies coming, and also help me on the sex closing, like what I should do or what I should change, thanks

You're talking about girls you know? I have a little exercise for that. Do this. Make a little quiet time and think about your target girl. Think about what it would be like if she was your girlfriend, what kind of dynamic you'd have, things you might talk about, and most importantly what kind of kisser she is. Is she sloppy like some kind of hippie? Really aggressive, using both hands? The kind that just sort of wilts? It doesn't matter how accurate you are as long as you can visualize it and it looks right.

Next time you see that target girl, you keep that mind frame that she's your girlfriend. You throw your arm around her like she's been waiting for you, you walk her to class or whatever your environment is. Subscribe to your own little fantasy. Obviously, don't be a lunatic about it, but if you do all those harmless little touches, have that banter like it's understood you're already dating, it'll just happen. If people that see you two together think you're dating, then you're doing it completely right. If you're asking about when to kiss, there's a shit ton of threads on that already, stop being lazy.