Sup guys.
So, next Saturday I'll be going to the rave Hard 13. For those of you that don't know, it's pretty much like a club but with louder music, more sluttily dressed women, and everyone is on ecstasy.
I've found that gaming is a little bit different at raves due to the fact that most people are on drugs. Also, every hot girl is usually with a guy. I know this doesn't mean that they are boyfriend and girlfriend, but what would be some good ways to open a set like that? The jealous gf opener seems like it would be really random to say at a rave, and I know you're supposed to befriend the male (disarm the obstacles). I'm not exactly sure how to go about disarming male obstacles, and would appreciate some pointers.
Do any of you guys have experience in rave game? I mean, it really shouldn't be that hard since the girls that go pretty much go in their underwear. I just have trouble getting through their bitch shields and getting female-to-male attraction.

Thanks!
-Stig

Some things I've thought of doing so far:
*Somewhere in the conversation say "You're glowing! Is there more to you than your good looks?"
-I figure since they're on drugs, they might find it fascinating if i tell them that they are "glowing" and might actually believe it. Maybe this could lead into an ESP routine?
*Fit the cube routine into the convo...
-What would be a good way to open into this? In normal situations, I run the C's and U's routine, then second guess my "ex gf" and say "She's stupid anyways, I bet I could tell you a bunch more about yourself"
*Open with "Do you believe in magic spells?" then run the magic spells routine-The one where she holds up two fingers and I say I'm one and she's the other, and they eventually get closer and touch.
-I'm not sure how well this would work with a guy in the set.

Also, I give Light Shows at raves, and I'm actually very very good at them. Most people tell me I'm the best they've ever seen. But most of the time, I end up giving a light show to an HB and some other guy at the same time. It's very hard to isolate at a rave because everyone always wants to stick together-it's very easy to get lost in a place with 20,000 people.

And another issue:
At raves, everyone is either on the dancefloor where conversations cannot be heard, or they are sitting down on the floor, drugged out. There aren't any girls just standing around away from the dance floor.

Anyone?

Wear fury clothing. A lot of guys wear coats with fur to raves because when people are on X they become very tactile and want to feel unusual textures, like fur. Just enjoy the experience. Everyone is going to be drunk or on drugs, so don't worry about conversations or gaming. Just relax and be open to meeting women and go with the flow. Smile, dance, mingle, have fun. Don't worry about lines, they won't be able to hear you anyway.

WHY would you game woman that are on X? I've seen people on X, they're not very sociable, let alone talkative. And who knows if she won't flake when you get a #close. Or that she'll change her mind once the X runs out and she's in your house.

Find a different environment to game, please. RaveGame.... it's just crazy, you'll have many more things to worry about, and alot more cockblocks.

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That's why you just immediately go for the f-close instead

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You then give her more X

IMHO talking to girls at raves is super easy, everyone's out to see crazy things and wear ridiculous clothes. If they're on X, then so much the better. Peacocking is pretty essential, but you can do it without feeling like so much of an asshole because there's a zillion people dressed crazier than you.

Anyway, wear something fun to touch, or something that glows, basically go like it's halloween. Then you can bring any number of the following props:
1. Cigarettes (plus fancy butane/glowing lighters)
2. "Rave shades" you know the weird polarized/diffraction filter things made of paper frame + thin plastic lens : get a bunch at a party store and give them out to girls. You don't even need to use an opener with this, just walk up to her, put the shades on her face and bust out the lights.
3. Gum! So underrated, everybody likes gum, especially ppl on drugs.
4. Vicks inhaler (looks like chapstick) - anyone who raves a lot knows this trick, you take off the back and blow through it so the menthol stuff comes out, you blow it in someones eyes and it feels amazing - (only works if the target is rolling though)

Basically you can't have too many props. Stick with short, choppy dialogue ("Hey" "what's up", etc) and just demonstrate you're having a good time, enjoy the music ("I love this song, the bassline is sooo dirty... can you dance dirty?"), and then move to kino really quickly. After that I could use as much help as you, but if an AFC like me can get that far that easy, should be no problem to close for someone who knows what they're doing. If you number close, you can meet up with peeps later at your place for the after party, ravers always like to stay up all night after a show, smoke weed, hookah, etc., just chill out and come down, even if you're not alone you can still isolate and build comfort.

I'd recommend not bringing more drugs w/ you just cuz it's a pain and you automatically turn yourself into a dealer type which most people think is a shady dude. OTOH I have a friend who always brings 2 extra pills, when he isolates figures out some clever way to play doctor and gives her the pill himself, so YMMV.

Dunno as far as disarming the competition, but the props have a pretty universal appeal so that's at least a way to open. Maybe talk about the last rave you went to, see if they also went, what was the best act they've seen, etc. You won't be talking much so just get in and escalate with the quickness.