Sup guys,

To put it in perspective, I have a few girls on the go from different towns in the county and in the last 2 weeks I have been gaming this girl who I was dating 4 months back. Only problem is she is in a relationship but it's a little confusing , she's been flirting with me a lot and yesterday we were at the gym and there was an exchange of kino (she had her hand on my wrist - complete IOI). We were also talking about the laughs we had back when we were dating. Today after school she's asking me to hers to "bake cakes?" haha but whatever, I said yes. Her boyfriend is in the navy and comes back in a week, I'm doing my best to not make her cheat on him because lets face it, as much as we want them it's just wrong. If she dumped him for me then fair enough but I can't bring myself to get her to cheat. I don't have oneitis on her because I am attracted to a lot of other girls and are currently seeing them but for some reason I can't help but feeling a little more attracted to this one.. bah, damn our testerones!!

How should I go about this? In your opinions anyway.

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"At the end of the day these are women's lives we're dealing with, not mere entertainment."

"We are what we repeatedly do. excellence therefore is a habit and not an act."

If you have no problem with her breaking up with her boyfriend for you, why not game her all the way up to a kiss, but then tell her you wont kiss her because you dont want her to cheat.

Maybe she'll reconsider her boyfriend

Or for all you know, she's just lonely and when her BF is back, she might lose interest in you again. Either way, you won't get hurt by going to her place and just having fun (and building attraction).

Well I'm heading to a party at hers on saturday, the boyfriend will be there so obviously I can't do any direct sarging but what do you think of heading there, chatting up all the girls and building my social proof? The more girls that interact friendly with me the more AMOG status I convey of myself. If mystery's method of survival replication is correct then it would create attraction with my target? What do you think?

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"At the end of the day these are women's lives we're dealing with, not mere entertainment."

"We are what we repeatedly do. excellence therefore is a habit and not an act."

thats not a bad idea. but dont make it seem like you're chatting up all the other girls. give her a wink when she sees you talking to another girl.

dont stick around 1 for too long.

Something you could also consider is going up to her when you see her (make sure her boyfriend is next to her), giving her a hug and a kiss on the cheek while you have your hand on her lower back briefly, and then telling her to introduce you to the guy she's with. I did this one time, but not on purpose. The boyfriend got really jealous (didnt speak to me about it, but she told me later), and jealous boyfriends are a turn-off

Seriously. I see girls with boyfriends as girls.

Thanks for keeping my girl warm while I was somewhere else but let me take it from here. Or hang around youll get her back once Im done with her.

See... Not so hard.

If she comes to you fine, if she doesnt, fine.

That is pure gold man, I've asked near enough every girl on my msn about that scenario and mostly all of them said it would piss them off. I suppose there's a risk factor that comes with this though that the boyfriend might go hostile or not take any notice. Even so, i suppose it does show some AM HV.
I agree, I'm planning on using a normal opener such as the supermodel one but see after that, what would be a brief yet interesting topic to talk about? I also have a few card tricks to show to the party later on if i need to demand interest.

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"At the end of the day these are women's lives we're dealing with, not mere entertainment."

"We are what we repeatedly do. excellence therefore is a habit and not an act."

I see your point though but is there supposed to be an implication that the guy is being a little possessive?

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"At the end of the day these are women's lives we're dealing with, not mere entertainment."

"We are what we repeatedly do. excellence therefore is a habit and not an act."

You shouldn't hit on a girl with a BF ... ever, it's fucking wrong.

We're not looking at the morality behind it, there's a threshold between where it is right and where it is wrong. There's nothing wrong with creating attraction with a girl with a boyfriend if she decides to break her relationship up then it's her wrongdoing not mines.
I'm not looking for moral judgments anyway, I'm looking for advice.. write something more constructive next time.

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"At the end of the day these are women's lives we're dealing with, not mere entertainment."

"We are what we repeatedly do. excellence therefore is a habit and not an act."

As my best friends mom said it, "if they are not married; they're game". Just don't make them cheat and don't cheat. If a guy is to much of a douche to see what he has; then he deserves to lose her.

I game for the search of a life partner and soul-mate. It is a dog eat world. I have had guys try to take my g/f away... but i don't give her any reason to EVER think of it. I find it funny when my g/f tells me about guys hitting on her.

Now when a girl is married; that is where the game stops.

PS: this doesn't sound much like a sticking point. It sounds like you have the skills. You just need to make up your mind. It sounds like you want us to make up your mind for you. You want what every PUA wants: No guilt or bad rep for cheating, and to be limited to one girl.

My advice: David-X's method. Don't lie to her but convince her to be in an open relationship; so you can see other people. Tell her you think shes the one but u want to explore other options to make sure and she should do the same. Tell her that she isn't happy where she is now. She needs to find out what she likes and dislikes about different guys. She needs to play the field. If you are still meant for eachother then things will flow naturally.

You are entitled to your opinion but I completely disagree.

A girl is nobodys possession. She has the right to go with whoever she wants. Its her life and her decision.
Yes, I would get annoyed if someone was hitting on my girl but only if I thought that he was a threat. So the mindset that it is wrong most likely comes from the fear of somebody stealing "your" girl. She is NOT "your" girl. She is a girl who has agreed to spend time with you for an undefined period of her life. You cannot make anyone promise to love you and "belong" to you forever.

Or its the old way of supporting the family, oooh, guess what in the civilized world its no longer needed, people can take care of themselves. There is no higher power who has decided what is right and wrong. (Sorry to all you believers.)

Anyway. If the girl doesnt choose you then there is no problem. If the girl does choose you you were the better choice and she has made a decision. There is no way to trick a girl into dating you. We are not working miracles here. It is her decision. She just didnt know that she could want anything else until you came along.
In my opinion it is worse to rob her of that opportunity than to present yourself as an alternative.

And... Hey stay away from my girls.

I'm from the UK where the majority of us are atheists and secularists, lets keep this a secularist post I see no relevance between sarging and metaphysics. Anyway, I'm asking for a bit of routine.. not for the morality behind whether its wrong to hit on a girl with a boyfriend. If its not relevant to what I've said then please take it somewhere else.

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"At the end of the day these are women's lives we're dealing with, not mere entertainment."

"We are what we repeatedly do. excellence therefore is a habit and not an act."