Hey guys, let me start about getting into a little background on myself. I've been sarging for about a year now and am constantly improving, a goal of mine is to get to a level were i can teach. When i go sarging, its easy for me to create attraction, its easy for me to get number closes and I've just recently got to the point were i can regularly land kiss closes, often times within 5 minutes. My sticking point is very apparent, I can't get D2's with any of these women!! The past 2 weeks I have texted around 15 girls and haven't got the D2 with any of them! My first question is, would this usually have to do more with my in field work or my text game? Some people say its better to call but I have a friend who piles many D2's with only text game so I know that text game would be good enough. I seem to get into a texting limbo with the girls and after a while it either fizzles out or they give excuses when i push for a D2...this happens with about 9 out of 10 girls. This is what I've been doing lately, I send funny question text the first time like this

"hey pretty girl;) does a one legged duck swim in circles?"

They respond blah blah.

then i respond about how fun my weekend was or something,

then they respond

and I wait until the day after the next sending them something like

"ur sooo lucky"

them: "why is that?:)

" Me: "because i just thought of you cutie pie;),

whats ur fav color?" Them "Green, what about u?"

Me: "a green girl interesting, i like blue".

So you get the point with how my text game is generally, this isn't a real text but my texts generally go along these lines and I will do these little micro text convos skipping a day in between, sometimes two. When the weekends near, I'll usually say something like "going to hartford today with a bunch of my friends you should come pretty girl, its gonna be a blast!" and they almost always flake, but i'll keep up the texts the next week if they still reply etc. Is there anything wrong with my text game??????? also this one girl

I texted "hey pretty girl hope you had fun last weekend;)"

she texted blah blah,

I texted blah blha,

she texted: "i've been really busy lately with bdays but i'm still down for that coffee you mentioned before:)" ( I asked her for coffee which she agreed if she wasn't busy about a week before)

I texted: " days r always fun, yea sounds good hows friday?"

she didn't respond!!! bear in mind that these texts were all within 5 minutes of each other...now its the next night!! Whats wrong with my text game?? Also i reply randomly sometimes within a couple hours sometimes a minute sometimes 30 min...you get the point. My game has reached a high level (i think), but my text game is catastrophic!!...or is it my game? I don't think so, i'm regularly getting positive vibes from the girls i get their numbers and i'm not the kind of guy who gets in the friend zone often. Please Help real PUAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

oh yea and is there any material i can look at (books, DVD's) for this particular sticking point. Thanks.

If you seperate that wall of text into paragraphs I might read it.

yeah next time seperate it out into paragraphs

1. i hope your not calling these girls cute or pretty as frequently as mentioned in your text.. IF pretty girl is just code for her name use HB please

2. if you are i think your game maybe awsome for your a1-a3 section but your girl is out of state when your advertising that you have interest in her.. this could be costly.

3. i have had alot more success when i dont text but just call after ive got them to commit to a day 2.. my convo normally goes:

Pua: Hey HB start telling them some sort of dhv that they should have been there for and Push pull and C/F also my dhv story normally has something in it that reminded me of them thus im calling them.
HB: hey blah blah blah (giggle)
PUa: what are you doing today?
HB: (this is where it goes either way)

HB: im kinda busy blah blah blah
pua: oh its cool i was actually just out by the area leaving another friends house i thought i would hit you up.

HB:nothing OR Busy till this time
Pua: oh cool i was gonna see if you wanted to do something? (Either now or when they free up ie.. there busy tell 7:00 your wanted to do something at 7:30) that way they cant say there busy or what ever.

now i oviously use alot more Push Pull over the phone and C/F then stated in these convo's the idea is to find out what shes doing before you ask her then you can see if its a good idea to ask her or not. no sense in trying to make plans if there already busy plus then you dont have to try and figure out if your getting blown out because shes not interested and making things up.

4. i really think that you should treat your text game as if you were actually face to face talking with them. IE run through your escilation ladder's from A1-A3

Hey guys, so i did what ur asking with the paragraphs, i thought i would also send you guys some real examples word for word of me texting different girls

1rst girl
Time in set:4-7 minutes
HB 7.5-8.5

This girl I walked right up to and introduced myself...we got into a little conversation, i probably figured out were she lived and what she does...I definitly gave the kino as i do all my sets...she liked led zeppelin as do I and i gave her a hug and told her I liked her (w a fun party vibe)...i remember telling her what i do, that when i was a kid i was able to recognize little qualities in music and making her guess until i told her i am a sax player...she was probably somewhat impressed...i told her to give me her number which she did without hesitation...i gave her kisses on both sides of her face, letting her know i was going to and she should do, which she did...i then left the set...

I remember getting positive vibes from this girl...she was definitly enjoying my company, however I'm pretty sure she wasn't giving me ioi's up the wazzoo, or even any ioi's that i remember, other then the fact that our vibes were both comfortable mixing even with the kino and possible obviously telegraphing of interest from me.

I got her number on a Friday and texted her the following monday, oct 12, 1:36 pm, this is word for word, punctuation for punctuation...

(at 1:36) Me: Hey pretty girl, i just heard a zep tune and it reminded me of u;) whats cuter a kitten sized pony or a pony sized kitten?? Jake

(at 3:26) Her: Oh hey A kitten sized pony I think a pony sized kitten might be a little scary. someone was actualjust talking to me about physical grafitti (zeppelin album)...though of you

(at 5:48) Me: Nice! Interestin answer. heres a good one cutie, wats ur idea of the perfect vacation??

No Answer

She sends me a text the coming wednesday on Oct 14

(at 9:44) Her: Do you have a facebook?

(at 10:21) Me: I do but only for my international friends, cant break the rule otherwise id spend too much time on it:)

That was the end of that, the next day on oct 15 i sent her this...

(at 3:02) Me: Ur sooo lucky

(at 3:38) Her: Oh yea? How come?

(at 3:57) Me: Cauz i just thought about u cutie;)

She doesn't reply with anything

Now the next text i send was on Oct 22 and this time i was going to move into logistics and try for the D2

(at 6:51) Me: Omg! Somethin just reminded me of u

(at 6:59) Her: Lol, yea? What was it?

(at 7:03) Me: A music vid, im outside right now in fall w no shirt

up to this point this is the end of the interactions with this girl...as you can see its a lot of new threads that end up falling off quick, now that I wrote this out i can see why these weren't the strongest of interactions. But this is the general playful style of most of my texts. What input do you guys have on this one? I'm curious as to how you guys think that can improve me text game.


2nd girl

Time in set: 13-23 min
HB: 8.5/9

Here is another girl and its a short one, but I dug this chick, she's an ambitious girl and I would really like the D2 with her so if any of you guys can help me out on anything I can do next...

So basically i opened this set with my famous, "hi my name is jake opener" she seamed eager to talk to me and her friends immediately just let it happen for her, I was talking with her for a little, kino, flirting etc. and then starting dancing with her asked her what she did, found out her siblings, which sibling she spends the most time with etc. this is my version of comfort. She was telling me about herself blah blah and I told her i liked her, asked her if she was a good kisser and began making out with her...told her i can't believe what she made me do, i usually don't make out with girls in the club blah blah, asked her if she liked coffee she said something said ok this is what we are going to do, we are going to get coffee tomorrow she said she worked tomorrow so i changed the subject got her number talked with her a bit more kissed her on the cheeks and left the set. She was obviously digging me on a level...yea and by the way her guy friends who were out of the set when i opened (very dorky looking guys) took a couple pictures one with me kissing her on the cheek (not smileing which i should of) this was before we made out and another picture with us two, and i was almost smiling, but not quite...i should of smiled in those damn pics, it might of messed up my game if she looked at them later. Ended up seeing her later in the night said i'm going for a cigarette do you wanna come she said she was gonna get with her friends i said ok go with your friends, have fun. saw her again at closing told her i would call her tomorrow kissed her on the cheek and then she kissed me on the cheek. (HA! she JUST texted me...nice i have some more texts to add to this list...)

Ok so instead of calling her i texted her the next day...good or bad move?

ok i will write out this text convo in the near future but for now i'm tired...it will be up tomorrow or the next day and will probably have even more due to the fact that she just texted me...until then any observations on my game/phone game for getting those D2's will help greatly. Thanks.[/u]

Your texts just straight up suck thats why. No offense but they aren't worth responded to. Texts like those should be playful but also relevant to the convo by the second Text.
For instance, "hey pretty girl;) does a one legged duck swim in circles?", is a bad text. This is why: it is a closed ended question, not leaving room for other conversation "hooks". Open ended questions usually get better responses.
"ur sooo lucky", them: "why is that? Smile " Me: "because i just thought of you cutie pie;)" is also a bad text unless you are already intimate. It shows that you are chasing her...not the other way around like a PUA should do.
SO: Open-ended questions (what'd you do this weekend) are good
Playfulness (haha you're such a dweeb) is essential in a text conversation.
Prizing, framing the conversation so that you are the prize and that she is chasing you.

There are more essentials to Text pm if you want. I don't have time to write more now.

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Stop asking so many questions. It seems like an interrogation and when you said
"at 5:4Cool Me: Nice! Interestin answer. heres a good one cutie, wats ur idea of the perfect vacation?? ", I even felt uncomfortable. These are a few of the thoughts she should be having: A) Hey calls me cutie a lot (not a bad thing necessarily) B) Why does he care about that? We barely even talk.
Also when she asked for your facebook that was an SOI. And you denied her, which also isn't a bad thing if you play it right but be weary of that.

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Ok so this is the blond hb 8.5/9 a kiss closed, I said I would let you guys know the texts so here goes. BTW this is probably my best text convo to date (out of a lot!) because i just finished watching vin dicarlos "No Flakes" and really applied it to this one.

(Before I watched this Vin Dicarlo thing the texts were kind of week here they are vaguely)

The night I met her Me:you better get home safe! I had a really good time meeting you cutie;)

Her: I had a good time too and ditto:)

Two days later

Me:Hey cutie dancer;) you better have had a fun weekend

Her: (like 5 hrs later) I did, I hope u did aswell:)

Ok so this is were i really pimped it out like I never had before in Txt, If you guys have any pointers for this one It would be great because im sure that would pretty much make my text game flawless...This is word for word

On a thursday

(5:31 pm) Me:Hey! something jus reminded me of ya

(11:23 pm) Her: What reminded you of me?:)

(11:52 pm) Me: this music video, do u have a camera

(11:52) Her: yeah

(11:55) Me: Good cauz i just had this crazy idea of something we could do together

(11:56) Her: What's that? and what music video was it?

(12:00) Me: Its a surprise, but u have to promis to bring ur camera

(12:02) Her: Alright, i promise lol. is it a good surprise? can i have a hint?:)

(12:05) Me: Hint: its goin to involve some creativity;) do u know wer starbux in west hart center is

(12:06) Not starbucks specifically, but i know where west hartford center is

(12:09) Me: Farm ave and lasalle rd, il c u there at 400 sat bring ur camera and some comfy shoes;)

(12:11) Her: I can't on sat, i'll be in boston this weekend:( could we do it another day?

(12:15) Me: wat day is good for u if it works for me il give the ok

(12:19) Me: Actually im goin to b in danbury the wk so wel have to figure smthing out another time;)

(12:21) Her:Okie dokie, let me know when you get back form danbury:)

Any suggestions? even if its just subtle, i want to get my txt game on point...and also how do i follow up with the logistics for a date after this?

i agree with shadow. Call her. Use txt mssg as a last resort. Calling her just demonstrates ur a confident guy. If you txt, be brief and short... i usually just txt when they do not pick up... and generlly just write:
"Call me when you get this txt msg"
or
"Hey, don't be shy, i bet you need a break from the txt mssgs. I dare you to call me..."
or
"Hey, i tried reachin you, I need my sugar dosis... lol... don't get any worng ideas, was wondering if ur up for a coffee... i like my coffee sweet"

etc
etc.

If she picks up. Just use ur game. Be concise.
You: "Hey HB, i am going to grab coffee today after class/gym/***, I wonder if you would like to join me"

HB: I am a little busy today.
YOU: Wow, you like playing hard chase.
HB: (giggles.... blah blah excuse excuse)
You: what are you doin this weekend?
HB: (blah blah)
You: Thats cool, well, if you are not too shy, and you run out of making up excuses, I am going to ______ and it would be great if you can join me/us.


try this... its has worked for me before...
let me know how it goes dude.