Hey guys, this is my first post although I've been looking at the seduction community for awhile. Anyways, I hate to have my first post be looking for help rather then sharing answers but a few points have been really bugging me. I'll tell you my story. Two weeks ago I was at a house party and this girl that I opened was REALLY into me. It was so fucking obvious because after I said bye (the conversation was getting boring) she followed me. Now, she was begging for a hook up but my main problem with all the girls that I open is: I can't move in for the kiss. Maybe it was that we were surrounded by a lot of people but I just wasn't physically able to move in. I have never tried Mystery's "Would you like to kiss me?" line but it just seems like it wouldn't work. So basically we chatted until I grew so fucking uncomfortable that I left. That was a huge opportunity lost. Just leaning in and kissing her seems awkward. Is there a small kino escalation thing that I can do? As I've gotten better the kiss close has always been holding me back. My second sticking point is how to have an interesting and fun conversation THAT LASTS. Whenever I switch over to funny things it's always one joke and then it's over and it's back to interview type questions (Where do you work? Why are you here? etc.). So my second point is how to have a fun, natural conversation that lasts.

Thanks for all the help and I hope to be posting more in other topics soon!

if you dont want to use the mystery method while a kclose, but want to add some kino, try the trust and the kiss test:
season-2-finale-trust-test-vt45019.html

it worked for me last weekend, so good luck with it

I'm looking for a less verbal k-close. Those are too canned and don't flow naturally to work on any girls I encounter.

Sounds like she was interested.
i think the problem here is not the conversation but the kino escalation, because
you opened and got her interested.
when having a conversation with a girl its ok to ask interview questions, its a good way to lead you into other topics like
PU:where are you from
HB: FRance,
PU: france no way, I love france... Which part you from?
HB: toulouse
PU: OMG! i was in toulouse LAST YEAR? I CAN'T TALK TO YOU ANYMORE?
HB: Why not ?
PU: Well i was in france, Toulouse last year on holidays.... BLAH BLAH BLAH DHV something funny

You don't need a gambit or a trick to get a girl to kiss you. You need to reach between your legs, remind yourself you are a man, go grab her and make sure she never forgets the day she met you.

No woman dreams of being asked, "Do you want to kiss me?" or losing some kind of ridiculous bar bet before their first kiss with a potential new romantic interest. Needing to play games to get the kiss demonstrates only one thing: you were too scared to just go for it.

The bigger problem here seems to be that you are making excuses to justify your comfort zone. You know when it's time to kiss a girl, you want it and you know she wants it, but you're misinterpreting that sexual tension as anxiety. "This gambit's too awkward, that one has too much talking. This other one is weird." You need to quit thinking so much and go have fun.

After all, that's the whole point, right?

Your boy,
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Yeah, I want to just go for it. But I get really self-conscious, and I start wondering if I'm just a little too intoxicated, I'm reading too far into our little game etc. Is there a graceful way to move in for a k-close without making an ass of yourself?

dude you are not verry confident .. no offince but you need too just fucking kiss her.
its not a big deal you want it and she does
no girl doesnt want to be kissed.