Cellphone out,IOI or IOD?



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 6:20 pm 
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What i mean by this, is for example you walk on the street, and you see
a woman a couple of metres away, she's walking towards you..if she sees you and takes her phone from her bag or her pocket-whatever and types
anything, is it an IOI from her(indicator of interest) that tells you that
she'd like to be opened, or is it an IOD(indicator of disinterest) which
tells you that she's busy and would definately would not want to be opened.As far as i know, when you're in a new set, and at the first minutes one girl takes her phone and starts typing, is an IOD because she wants you to see she's busy and doesn't want to engage into the conversation,but on the street is it the same way? or is it because she feels nervous for seeing you, perhaps your high SnR value and wants to distract you by taking away her phone(which conveys also high status)

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 6:51 pm 
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In this situation, she probably noticed you looking at her or she read from your body language that you were going to approach so she took out her phone as a sign to go away, so i say an IOD. Thats not to say you cant approach with an interesting gambit anyway...


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 8:21 pm 
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Yeah but, my intentions were not to open her, i was walking the street,
without facing totally my body to her direction, just a simple walk,
and it's not the first time i see it..i have even done it myself some time ago when i've seen a beautyfull woman, it's just like playing with your
fingers in the classroom or playing with a pencil...you don't think about you, you just do it, and i guess it's because of the nervousness...the
"trying not to give a bad impression" or "trying not to fuck up" so you instantly engage yourself into a useless activity such as grabbing out your cellphone and typing mercilessly until the person passes you by..fuckin' amazing


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 7:19 am 
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In this situation, she probably noticed you looking at her or she read from your body language that you were going to approach so she took out her phone as a sign to go away, so i say an IOD. Thats not to say you cant approach with an interesting gambit anyway...
I disagree. These girls know the game as good as we do. One of the first things we do as pua's is Indicate disinterest when being indirect. I would take that as an IOI, reach down, check if my balls were there and make my approach. Its the same thing if a girl is in a set next to you with her back towards you. You might think that is a IOD, but no, its a proximity alert. She is subconciously doing this.

No woman is unapproachable.

I have also seen a vid of a pua walking right up to girl while she was talking on the phone and number closed her within 3 minutes AND she had a boyfriend.

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