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PostPosted: Sun Dec 21, 2008 9:26 am 
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I need kino escalating games and activities. Preferably one on one stuff, but group activities are acceptable as well.

The reason I am asking is that I think I am at the point where I can number close consistently, but I need help in building comfort to transition into a kiss close.


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Hey buddy =)

1. High 5’s. High 5’s rarely fail, and if the SPAM/context is conductive to PU, e.g. nightclub or party, then you can even use them as an opener. My wing was doing that when we went clubbing the other day. But there’s more to high 5’s. When you’ve got some attraction, you can double high 5, then instead of dropping your hands, just let your fingers slide between hers naturally. It’s so natural it works. A girl who was trying to seduce me (HB6, I wanted nothing to do with it) did this and it was so natural I had to give in. You can then pull her close or push her away.

2. Handshake. You can just do this randomly and it’s fun. From the handshake you can pretend she’s a boy and do all the man handshakes and go in with the shoulder at the end, then exclaim “well played homie” or something stupid like that. She’ll laugh and sometimes ask you if you’re calling her a man to which you reply, yes. If you use the handshake to begin with or very near the opener then you may want to have your palm tilted up to signify non-verbal trust and submission. You may also want to do this for cold approaches during day game. But other than that, generally make sure that the back of your hand is tilted up, so you are non-verbally dominant.

3. Thumb war. Yes, good old thumb war. AFC’s would let her win. Make sure you win, if you don’t, just go C&F and say she was cheating and that you can’t trust her anymore. To which she will start qualifying and you are controlling the frame.

4. I have a few routines (admittedly based on NLP, but they don’t have to be) which talk about certain tribes in the Himalayas that have a much higher life expectancy than us in the Western world, and that scientists think it is because they touch each other all the time (make a joke out of it), because it’s natural and feels great to hug someone for instance. You then hug her and it’ll be a really intimate hug, then say that was only 6/10, and let her do it again. I promise you she will give you a bear hug lol. The first time I field tested this routine was a girl called Emma HB8 who just strangled me lol. If you want I can post my tribal touch routine for this, or you can make your own based around the idea.

5. Move her around. I use this technique a lot, and it is based upon the principles of frame control, pattern interrupts and investment. When I meet a girl I might suddenly grab her shoulders and move her a few steps to the side and say “hey, don’t stand there” and she’ll be like “why?” and I’ll be like “you’re blocking my view of x” etc. By moving, you are leading, controlling the frame, getting her to invest, and fractionating for the isolation. Another way to use this technique is when she is sitting down with you. YOU WILL NOT CLOSE HER IF HER LEGS/ARMS ARE CROSSED. I always change the body language first. It’s sort of like the adage “change her mood not her mind”. Before I used to give her a pen or something, but now I just grab her leg and uncross it, or grab her arm and uncross it. It’s funny and you’re leading.

6. When you have some attraction and/or comfort, adjust her hair. Stop her in mid-conversation (neg) and say “hold on a sec”, then move in close and just brush her fringe to the side or something” and say “that’s better”. Sometimes from there I go “awww look at you you’re soooo cuuuute!” (Whilst grabbing her shoulders and kind of shaking her), but that has to be done with the right tone and body language so that it is more teasing than a compliment.

7. This is a bit of a gimmick but it fractionates well to make her less resistant to further kino. It’s a routine. I say something a long the lines of “my mate kim and I were discussing yesterday, that a girl finds it less comfortable if you touch them here (touch their stomach) then if you touch them here (massage their neck or thigh). I find that really strange. Do you find it to be true?” This basically gives you an excuse to touch her in sensitive areas off the radar. If you have a lot of attraction you can actually do this with their boob. I’ve tried it and it works a lot but oftentimes it hits their ASD, especially if in public.

8. Dance! I saw this in some video and it works really well. You start by getting a little close and just say “let me show you something” and instruct them to put their hand on your shoulder, then their head on your other shoulder, then put yours around their waste, then hold their other hand with your other hand, and before either of you know it you’re in a slow dance! The girl finds this very attractive as you’re leading and taking the masculine role.

9. Hit her (playfully). It’s funny and she’ll hit you back and you can just keep touching each other.

10. Mercy! For those of you that don't know, Mercy is a game where you both clasp hands (interlocking) and try to overpower the other person and making them say mercy (in essence hurting them until they say mercy). Of course, you are the guy, so you just challenge her by saying that you're not going to do anything, and you bet that she couldn't make you say mercy. (Make sure she doesn't actually win lol). It will be fun and you two will get into all sorts of positions. And of course at the end when she realises she can't win, she will fall into her submissive female role and you into your superior male role.

I could go on for a while but I have to go out for a meal now. The main thing about kino for me is that you’re always doing it, right from the start. She will become less resistant to it. Hug whenever you can, but never give your hugs out easily. Always say that your hugs are special, and neg her on her first hug, making her do it better second time round (she’s qualifying to you). Also, when you are saying something positive about her, don’t necessarily kino, but if you are negging her you can touch her shoulder and push it away. It’s a reverse paradox that works.

Hope this helps buddy =)


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 21, 2008 8:26 pm 
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Tickle her! She will tickle you back and It will be fun.
You can then transition to what makes her ticklish like poking, or rubbing... You can also depending on your setting show her weird ticklish spots
(behind the knee etc etc).


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Push her away physically, it is a disqualification and establishes kino. Use her to demonstrate something physical in your storytelling.

Like when you met a pig in the forest... Hmmm.... you can be the pig, and I went up like this and... etc etc.

Otherwise just use the evolution phase shift and the spin or trust test etc...


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DiCarlo Escalation Ladder.

http://www.directnaturalgame.com/Techni ... adder.html


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Tickling. I ask if she's ticklish. If she says yes, tickle her (she'll always tickle back), if she says no, say "I don't believe you" and tickle her.


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Great ideas everyone.


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