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A Sticking Point or SP is an issue you CONSISTENTLY run into.

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I keep getting LMR whenever I bring girls back to my place. This has happened at least 10 times already! What am I doing wrong?
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I got LMR with this one girl! What do I do?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 8:51 am 
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hey all..
hoping for some logical advice on my predicament.
old timer, mostly natural game, and have never really given a sh.t, but there's this one girl met recently who im mad for.

background:
she's a model, HB10 no hesitation. and not just in looks.
so we've gone out fri night, great time, drinking, boozy, keno, im mysterious, lots of stories, had her eating out of my hand, got on famously. cheek-kiss close.

she texted me sat 11am. again at 1pm. went out again sat night. same again, probably an even better time....by now im just sooo in love its not funny, and am happy to admit so. im staying cool though, doing all the right things etc so no drama there. we talk deep and meaningful, im saying all the right things, knowing her story and what i think she'd like to hear etc. she advises she doesnt do the chasing, which i know is going to screw me up!. cheek-kiss close.

half an hour later....i make possibly the most fatal mistake ive made, ever in regards women, and pick up the phone and start texting. im pretty drunk...i think about it, and cant help it.
about 2 texts in its as follows after telling her she's a hard one to read and her telling me she wants to go slow and steady...

her: so what are you thinking?
me: thinking...well hmm..id like to see you so to speak...
her: thanks for tonight, goodnight, sleep better "smiley face"
me: (a bit stunned, conversation just shut down) "what..thats it...i bleed my poor heart out and thats it...gee tks!"
her: my answer is as i said before, i like to take things slow and steady.
me: thank god we got that sorted out then x

i knew i was gone right there.
having not slept, i couldnt resist sun arvo texting with a story id been lunching at the local hotspot i know her and her model friends like.
3minutes later (quick, in text time i think)...."nice one!..."
i left it at that for then.

monday...u gotta remember id marry this chick in a flash so was very very hard to slow down.... i stayed out of it.

tues...couldnt hold back any longer and emailed her at work (which we had been doing lots of prior to the wkend).....
"hey..hows ur week shaping up, make that sale yesterday?"
3mins later her reply:
"hello...yeah got the sale, im sooo busy this week. got to go into a meeting now."
that was it, i left it alone. previous emails had gone on for 4-5 giggly emails.

so.....how am i doing u think?
gone completely.....or do u think by the promptness of her replies i might be able to salvage? i know she's "nice" so to speak, perhaps just being nice thinking im a chump and replying so as to not hurt my feelings??
best thoughts?
its now wednesday, ahvent replied or texted or emailed, and thinking plan of attack is not to at all until about maybe next wednesday!! good/bad??
if can get any length of converstaion out of her on email etc...will display all sorts of drinking, partying stories over wekend etc...need to work in some bad boy things as i was way too nice originally i think.
anyway, any advice on a decent plan of attack would be appreciated. tks for listening....u cant exactly cry your heart out to your mates can you so you mob are a decent outlet haha!!


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 8:56 am 
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I don't see the problem. It sounds like she is interested in you. Just try to get her out again.


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tks guru...thats a possibility but i get the feeling its a little worse.....so hoping for some of the recovery options perhaps.

the texts, emails, chats were all so friendly, smiley faces, kisses etc, and she was initiating a fair bit. which feeds me ego and helps my game. thats all stopped.

she left me in no doubt when we were out that she doesnt do the chasing....so im a bit of a loss as to how to handle that. i have a feeling if i dont chase, i wont hear from her. yet if i do...such a loser!!

i also agreed and told her on text in that last conversation that i wanted to take it slow and steady as well and would love to 'court' her. considering my life has always been short-time short-term stuff (im 32), and ive just spent a month in thailand fcking 2 hot chicks a night within the space of 5 minutes, i have not much idea about long term 'courting' relationships to win a girl i seriously like. i normally dont care.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 4:38 pm 
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Hey buddy!

Hmm, well it sounds pretty bad to me, and I really empathise for you. I'm currently battling one-itis with HB8 (Yes, she's not even a 9, but after a while in the field I'm going more for style/what actually interests me than pure looks these days), and I'm really afraid that I've freind-zoned her.

Soo...

I'm going to fvcking help you! First off, stop emailing/texting/contacting so much. I KNOW this is hard, but take a step back; YOU are the one who is initiating all the time, and SHE is the one ending. YOU are the one chasing, and SHE is the one rejecting. You are being too needy. You need to take back the frame mate!

There should be a name for this problem..where you are stuck because you can't keep contacting due to seeming too needy, but at the same time you need to contact or risk losing the set. Anyway...

As you said, wait until next Wed. Then try and meet up. Text game without escalation = she loses interest. Not good! Try to keep texts to a minimum (emails aren't so bad but still), and meet up. Here are your options:

1. Say you're going (ice skating/to town/something else) with a mate, and it'd be nice if she'd bring a mate along and you can have a good time. This way you are making it easier for her to meet up, and you can re-game her until her BT/attraction/comfort is back up. Also it's good to have her friend there because whilst she feels this prevents you from "going to fast", you can start a jealously plotline, and game/pawn her mate. Win her friends and you will win her.

2. Meet up for lunch. Lunch is good, because apparantly nothing serious can happen for lunch. She is more likely to accept. This enables you to re-game her to get back on the rails. If you game her well, there is also the option of staying with her after lunch, even carrying on until night.

^The basic idea is to meet up as soon as possible so you can properly re-game her, and at the same time making meeting as easy as possible for her. Don't get pissed 'it's only a lunch, or it's only with her mate' - slow and steady wins the race, from there you can convert to much bigger things.

Tips for re-sarging her -

-Role reversal: If she negs/shit tests you, or any time that seems appropriate, be like "Those girls I met the other day (link to a story/DHV) kept perving over me without actually getting to know me. You wouldn't go all pervy on me would you?"

Or if her BT is up, "Man, is this what you do to every guy you pick up? I hope you're not just another girl" (This phrase is gold; she may not accept that she is trying to pick you up, BUT SHE WILL ACCEPT that she's not just another girl, and in doing so, she accepts the presupposition that she is picking you up - yes, i know I am a genius).

-Take back the frame! The frame is the underlying meaning of the interaction. Presently you are low value because YOU are chasing HER, and moreover, she has rejected you of sorts recently. SO, you need to take every opportunity to make it seem as if it is the other way around. Ways to do this is make her qualify - "I've been meeting a lot of girls recently. They're all quite pretty, but that's all they have you know. Tell me, what makes you different?" Or, "Is there more to you than meets the eye?" Or, "You are adventurous aren't you? Good, because I only make friends with adventurous people." Etc. There are other ways too. Phrase everything as if SHE is trying to get YOU. DO NOT SEEM NEEDY, i know you know this, but you won't when you're forgetting everything you know because you're trapped in her spell.

Finally, use negs, perhaps false disqualify yourself at the beginning, etc.

Hope this helps, good luck buddy.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 6:04 pm 
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I think that you might be slipping into "friend zone". First of all you got a cheek close, that is what friends do to each other.


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