So i've had a lot of sucess during day game. about 75% of my closes have occured after day game sarging. I find it very easy to run effective routines and build comfort. Also, day game is MUCh easier to isolate a girl...especially because there are many more single sets.


When my PUA buddy and I go out at night, I rarely ever have success. I've kissed maybe 3 girls ever during night game. and have only one ever taken one home.

My problem is that: my strongsuit is in isolation, where I can communicate well and build deep raport...but in bars it has been nearly impossible for me to get attraction, partly because there are so many obstacles to deal with.

I suck at night game. is there any advice on how to overcome this difference between day and night game? I would really like to be able to pull girls from bars at night

thanks guys

I suggest that you have a little read into what Tyler Durden calls AMOG's which is defined as:

Alpha
Male
Of the
Group

I'm going to bet that this is the problem that you are encountering as it is whenever I go out to clubs/bars.

You want to 'out alpha' him (or them). Depending on how many AMOG's are in the set.

And to do this, you might want to check out the files that I have.
And be sure that.....
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This should get you off and running with your "night game."

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graves man u sound EXACTLY like me! im much stronger at day game (i #-close around 60% of the sets i open during the day) and i think its because its a LOT easier to just TALK to the girl and establish attraction during the day through my routines and C/F teasing, joking etc.

im 17 but iv been clubbing a few times and iv only ever had success 1 night out of 3 but to be honest i barely ran game that time and the majority of the sets i sarged were on the dance floor. all the cubs i hit up are always extremely loud and unless u smoke there is nowhere u can go to talk to someone. i would go to a lounge instead of a club but:
1) none of my friends wanna come with me (all my 18+ friends prefer clubs over lounges - they just wanna drink and dance)
2) everyone in lounges is usually 25+ (in sydney) and i look my age which doesnt help

leprechaun - assuming no other guys are in the set, how do u run ur usual game and establish attraction or even interest when the music is too loud?

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That will probobly help me out a bit. Thanks for that.

But I'm not sure if that is my problem...for example...last night I went out (Monday) and being Monday night, the bars were somewhat slow. Several of my sets were all women. and towards the end of the night, several were the bartenders. There were very few mixed sets at all, and noone to AMOG anyway. The few mixed sets that I had, the guys were the husbands, and I didn't want to f**k with that


why did my all-female sets still suck so much? I feel like the mere fact that I'm talking to a new person at a bar or club is a DLV. It pretty much says "I don't have high value freinds with me, and so i'm talking to you"

the only way around this is to forward merge your sets, and then your newest set is assuming that you are popular and have lots of friends there.
The problem is that, tha only works for me when there are LOTS of sets to open. In the bar scene in my town, it's slightly more low key.

So any ideas on how to deal with that?

gravesRR7: If your club scene is "low-key" where you live, then I would do a little traveling to a club that has a few more people in it.

I would suggest that you look at my file/books, the link is in my SIG below. Those will be able to help you out more than I could anyday... good luck.


BlakMagik: You asked this: "assuming no other guys are in the set, how do u run ur usual game and establish attraction or even interest when the music is too loud?"

Gain rapport and all that other stuff that is required first and foremost, and then you need to ISOLATE the girl that you are interested in.

You can also check out my file/books by the link in my SIG below. I would suggest that you read Mystery's Book. (it's on page 3)

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Hear Hear... My nightgame is nonexistent. Went out again last night with an "enough is enough" attitude. Results? Nil. I only had the nerve to open two sets, and they were pretty much instant blowouts. I just CANNOT open on the dancefloor. Later on me and my friend were at a late night burger joint, and guess what? I opened a hb8 with her boyfriend and was reeling her right in with my C&F before I let them be alone. No problems opening here whatsoever, because I WASN'T EXPECTING to open when we went in: the night was over as far as I was concerned.

Sheeesh.

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Visionist I can answer your concern if in deed it is a concern.
Avoid the dance floor for pickups. I have had no success trying to
pickup a HB on the dance floor.

I wait until after I have picked her up by opening sets on the
"ground floor." Not the dance floor.

After you have picked up a HB at the bar or a table, then, if you
are a good dancer, like salsa is good. Then you can ask her if
she wants to dance. Most HB's love a guy that can dance. It shows
her that you can "move" in rythmn with her, which in turn lets her
know that you can keep up with her in the sack.

This is all that I have right now for this one... Good-luck.

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Don't worry about it.
Just stick with it and you will see yourself getting better

As mean machine says don't worry just work on it, where else do you get as many sets to open. I'm the oposite if you guys can pm me some day game ideas that would be great.

Here it goes for night you have to come in with high energy, yet have good frame and body langauge. Stick in your sets and don't bail be ready with material for the silent moments.

Dance floor you must be able to dance, have high energy and most important have fun. We're new to it and what I've notice having high energy and kinoing with the high fives(the whole group). If the group is receptive high five your target last and go strait into dance mode with her after she high fives your take her hand and lead her like a cave man would. Take control of her. Good luck guys!

simple, find the sticky points and solved