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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 8:10 am 
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Hey guys. So bit of background. I always felt like my text game has been relatively good as I always tend to have this playful banter going on. I usually feel like i m able to build up attraction through my texting. But i guess it doesnt always work, so i thought i could use some outside perspective and feedback on it.

The below text convo is wiith this girl who I would like to hook up with, but havent done anything with so far. I met her at a party, and got her number, and she s my sisters friend (not majorly close though) and like 3 years older. Before this i ve texted her maybe twice before.

Before the below exchange, we were generally texting and she playfully called me a "dumbass", and then i acted all fake offended and stuff and then she said "aww i m sorry" n stuff. lol.

Me: Well the damage is done and u r gonna have to make it up to me! But i m sure the 6 months off as made u a cooler person to talk to! so god does work in mysterious ways!

(and as for the 6 months off, she s been just chilling since she left her job like 6 months back)

HB: Haha i will make it upto you. and nah, it hasnt made me any cooler. I m nerdy as ever. :(

Me:Jeez, i may ve to cut u off then, i cant be associated with such nerdy characters! pity! but that doesnt mean u gettin off without making it up to me. Bribes n gifts are accepted! ;) after which i shall break all ties with u! =P

HB: Oh yeah?! It's not gonna be good for your cool image right. I get it! Fine :(
=P

Me: I dont care too much abt it, but other people are so judgemental, and apart from being a nerd, u r also unemployed! what ll ppl say! ;) maybe a secret affair would be more suitable! although dont get too excited just yet, it depends entirely on the gifts, and not at all on u! =P

So, anyways i dint get a reply to that last message, and was wondering if its maybe coz few aspects of my game need working on, or that she sees me more as her friends younger brother! And how to change that if its the latter? (i meet a lot of my sisters friends)
Anyways any tips on how to go ahead? just forget abt her and move on? or text her back in a couple of days, if she doesnt?

Anyways, do give me some pointers on this, thanks!


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 1:20 pm 
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i think you started off really good with the teasing and rewarding. but it looks like you were teasing her too much in the latter messages. there's suppose to be a balance of postitive and negative validation. do too much negging can lead to the girl thinking that you are an asshole.

try and tone down the teasing. after you have built attraction with the push and pull technique, go into deep rapport stage and kino up to the k close and beyond.

here are some notes on attraction, building rapport, and number closing which might be of interest to you. enjoy.

one thing you should know is when to tease (push pull technique, negging etc). they should only be used if ur target is a 7.5 or above (or the girls who think they are 7.5 or above whereas in actual fact they are not). if you were to tease a girl below that rating, you would end of hurting and insulting them. in exclaimer for using negging and teasing is that one should positively validate their target before they negatively validate them. the reason to do it in this way is because one must hook their target in order to get their attention. so after the positive validation (for a set who is +7.5) you negatively validate them (tease, push) in order to put yourself at a higher level than them because at the beginning they are higher than you. the main reason why it is good to use negging is to challenge the ego of a girl of high calibre which is something that a typical afc does not do. and by doing this, it shows that u r a man that has high standards and does not go for just any girl and this will make the girl more interested and it will compel her to work harder to gain your approval because you have showed disinterest in her, told her that she does not fit your standards (negative validation). girls always want the guys that is surrounded by women and guys which are difficult to get, its a challenge for women to go after those guys.

building rapport is a very interesting process. in order to build a great emotional connection one must choose to talk about things which have deep emotional content. it does not matter what the girl does or likes, you can connect with her even if you have dissimilar interests. as you know all occupations and hobbies are completely different in their complexity, principles and structure, but there is one thing which all of them have in common/share "EMOTIONS". one must be empathetic and show a girl that u understand why she chose to do that job or hobbie by expressing the emotions that one feels when doing that activity, it shows that you're really trying to get to know her, and she will think "wow this is a great guy to talk to, he's making an effort to understand me, but wait, i dont know anything about him" and this will compel her to ask you questions and u can freely express yourself how ever much u want as long as u express urself passionately and positively. all the men dont do this at all and do not understand how much empathy is a powerful force and openly allow themselves to be perceived to see a girl superficially. you can use the concept of 'rapport' to ur advantage as well.

in order for you to build greater rapport with her, get used to asking more open-ended questions e.g. "what have you been up to?" or "What did u get up to today?", my one: "What monkey business did u get up to today?". dont use questions like "wats up hun?", thats a closed-ended question which the girl would simply answer and she wont give u much material to work on in order to reach the hook point.

and connect on her answers in a positive way. dont be afraid to tease her as well. dont be afraid to create impact. when telling a girl about a situation that happened to u on that day or in the week, give more details about it, women love details. it is also good to read the local news paper, women are usually very aware what happens in the world, u should as well. u can get her point of view on something in the news (nothing to do with which celebrity had sex with who) e.g. political, environmental, sociological etc and then she would ask you what u think and you can manipulate the conversation which can lead anywhere u want.

another way u can have an "endless conversation" is the principle of "Question, statement, Question, statement, Q, S, Q, S etc". so u ask an open question, receive the answer, and then make a statement about the last thing she said in order to ask a deeper question. this process can go round in a circle, it can go on for ages.

after you have the girl attracted to you and built rapport, here's how to make sure that you can get a definite number close and afterwards ensure a date in the future.

the way to ask a girl out is by 'offering' not asking permission, never ask "Do you want to go out tonight?" or "will you go out with me?" or "so what time are you free tomorrow?". They are all questions which AFCs do. they make a guy sound needy, desperate, dependent on doing something with her.

so before offering a date, let her know how busy and sociable you are. girls want guys who are difficult to get. usually in rapport with girls, to make sure she does not flake on u after the first meeting, there's a pua principle called 'seeding'. this is when u in plant an invitation in the conversation with her but u havent actually invited her. for example, you could say that "im thinking of going to this really cool bar sometime next week which i heard about". now usually when a guy mentions to a girl about going to a bar, club or party that u know, the girl will always expects the guy to automatically invite her. but what you would do is just to mention the party or the bar and continue on the conversation. this will catch the girl off guard and the girl will be thinking "hey, this guy is pretty cool (depending on the attraction and rapport), but he has just mentioned this party but why is he not asking me out?". she will think this and will be more compelled and desperate for you to ask her and she realises that she needs to work in order to get the invitation. women want to go to things that are hard to get into, exclusive and even more if they are told they cant go. people always want to go to things when they have been told they cant go. sounds so forbiden and interesting.

dont be in the position to be waiting for a girl to call you, women are lazy or busy but definitely unreliable. you make the contact. but when u contact, dont sound like you are too eager to see her, bad sign to show that ur desperate. in between texting a girl, act like u dont care if she ever replies back. i know it sounds crazy, but it does not feel good waiting, checking ur phone every so often seeing if the girl replies. have the frame of mind that u dont care about a reply, then u will feel less anxious, and more focused on ur game.

Hope that i have helped. happy gaming dude


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 8:12 pm 
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dude honestly i cant thank you enough for actually taking the time out to reply and give me some extremely good advice and tips! A lot of the stuff u said, i m gonna read again and definitely gonna try and instill it in my game!

And yeah about the too much teasing part, I do realise i do tend to overdo it quite often and i guess that becomes a turn off for a girl! I guess i do it coz i m overly playful and i guess not everyone will get that, and they can think i am an asshole!

This girl is a 8, i would say. The good news is that she did reply. lol. (although she should use a watch, like a day later, wait i m not suppose to notice this. lol )

She basically replied to my last msg, sayin "haha we ll see abt it =P" and then she sent one after that sayin "So whats keeping you busy these days? arent u like bored out of your wits?! " , coz i just graduated and been chillin before i start working.

Anyways i havent replied to her, and basically dont intend on msgin her for a day or two atleast. After which I ll try using the advice u game me! only other question i have is what do u mean by positive validation? I m still very new to the PUA community. Do u mean compliments? coz i dont think i ve ever complimented actually complemented a girl! lol.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 10:30 pm 
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Positive validation is in a way complimenting. but in absolute terms it is a verbal gesture of your approval. it's a way of showing that you are pleased by what the girl has said or done. but you can't just compliment her on her looks because that is what every other guy does. the best compliments are the ones which are very sincere, genuine, and something that she has never heard someone say about her, thats where alittle bit of empathy skills come into play. also to make the validation more solid and makes the girl more likely to qualify herself to you is by comparing her to other girls in the sense that you were not impressed by the other girls and you're making your girl stand out from them. this shows that you are the one that is judging her and not the other way around.

hope that i have helped. happy gaming dude ;-)


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