I went sarging last weekend and two times I got past opening. The first set was a mixed set. I opened with the who lies more, men or women opener. I directed my attention to one of the guys in the set. Some how the conversation goes into a philosophy. The women in the set participated sparsely in the opener subject and not at all in the phil convo. Eventually they wandered off.

I went to a different bar. set of 2, both women, Hb 6,and 9. Used the same opener. Not sure if I was overly transparent because Hb 6 has a wide array of attempts to discourage me. Asks me questions like why I an interested, says not an interesting subject, aks stuff like does that opener usually work. Any way, I manage to somehow get through all of them responding with either bs or negs. Anyway I talk with her some more and she starts to give me IOIs. Meanwhile the whole time her friend has not said a single word. It becomes clear that me and the hb6 are on a path to hook up mean while me and hb 6 have not exchanged a single word. I did not want to hook up with hb 6 so I bail.

Comments/Sugguestions.

you arent transitioning the conversation, remember you control the entire conversation the whole time. make sure to create multiple threads of topics, and dont ignore your target entirely, neg her a pull her in, the push her out, then pull back in.