Last night I approached a HB9 and decided to start with a neg, "I like your hair, is it real?". She responded with "Ya, what kind of question is that?".

I heard when you use negs, its a throw and go kinda of thing, but this neg is kinda of a question. What would you guys done differently? Would you guys wait for an answer or don't wait for and answer and run into a routine?

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I would follow it up with a stupid reason for asking her the question although I wouldn't start with a neg like this. I'd run this kinda question once I've built up alittle comfort because you can get away with it easily.

Anyway,

You: "I like your hair, is it real?".
Her: "Ya, what kind of question is that?"
You: "Coz there's no way someone can look as cute as you without having a dirty secret. So is the fake hair the secret? Coz you can tell me you know but this conversation may be recorded for monitoring and training puposes. Or something stupid like that!
*this is where I'd change the topic fast. Tell her why you are out or tell her something situational*

Hey mates,

I'm new around here. I don't mean to hijack the thread but I needed some help with a neg as well.

Is it a good idea to give a gift as a neg. For example there's this girl I've been talking to. Not for very long though. She's admitted to me that she can be somewhat of a clutz at times and that she's accident prone. I'm thinking of sending a small box wrapped up with baby Barbie bandages inside as a joke to her work...with a note saying someting like ".......just because I know you're accident prone!"

What do you guys think? To early to be sending shit like that?

Cheers

To the first neg: Definitely never start with a neg...you have to open the chick, build rapport, and then will be able to successfully neg. By starting with the neg you have just destroyed all her confidence and she is likely to turn the other way. Dont be worried about when is right to work in a neg...anytime you think of something to say just blurt it out, because by doing this it is also another implicit neg by interrupting her...so 2 negs in 1 haha! I love negs man...

To the second "gift neg" idea: Awful idea...This wont even be construed as a neg by her, she will probably just think it is weird and that you are coming on too strong. I dont think the most effective negs are tangible (maybe like not opening a door for a girl...but beyond that oral negs are sufficient). Hold onto the gift until you have been with her a while and she will take it more as a joke, cause thats what it sounds it is. Dont confuse a joke with a neg!

Dude you didnt do that correctly, I won't go on about the obvious deviations from the M3 Model. Instead I will show you what I get from reading that opener. After you say that I can only imagine you saying; "because I want to cut it all off and asdd it to my collection after I sodomize your dead corpse". Seriously man you scared the chick, thats the kind of thing an unstable kid would say.

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Hey atb123. Thanks mate. I see what you're saying. Good thing I didn't send it. Maybe later on.

Cheers

Heya guys,
Uncalibrated negs are the scariest things I see when I'm out in field.

People use them on my female friends all the time and you should see the reactions you get.

Negs should only be used in 2 circumstances as far as I'm concerned.

1) as a way of getting her to invest in you by demonstrating that you don't care about her. using it as an opener when you don't have any other form of explicit value, i.e. social proof, good looks etc is never going to have a good response.

2) as a punishment for when she is not playing ball with you.

THough in every instance I would suggest using it with some fomr of playful smile or at least give her a way to win back your favour so that she invests and it doesn't turn into a negging war.


Hope this helps

Any questions just ask.

AFC Adam,