Theres this girl that works at my local subway shop. she is a stunner! and shes also the manager.. I talk to her everytime I go in, she always makes a mistake and I laugh at her and make jokes shes always laughing and smiling when I come in, ive asked her for her number once and she told me she had a bf... then I go there afew times.. and then one night me and my mate decided to call and make a complaint about the food and she laughed about it on the phone and I asked for her number again and she said No because she still had a bf..

anyways... I still go in there now and again to get food and I just joke around and do the same shit and just ignore the fact that shes got a bf.. anyways.. I went in there 2day with a mate.. she surved me and she asked me how my day was and also she asked what I was doing 2night.. so I replyed that im going back to my mates to relax.. then I ask her what did she to 2day.. and she told me she went to uni and also had a fight with her bf.... (now why would she bring that up??)

I ignored the bf comment and I asked what do u study at uni.. she replies "Business" (I also run my own business and she knows it already) so I reply "well u can show me how to run my business because I have no idea, haha" then she replies acting all serious "really?" and then I said "mabe" in a cheeky voice.

she also gave me a 60% discount!!! lol I nearly got my food and drink for free!!

so I dont know how to get this one.. shes abit hard to get coz of her bf but my mate thinks that she is 75% into me lol..

need some help guys what would you do?

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Are you seriously asking why she is bringing that up? She is interested in you, you've asked for her number already twice.. then she has a fight with her bf and is all ready to give you her number. You should have told her to join you and your buddies tonight if she wannts to get her mind away from that fight.

Ok, well.. its too late now for that. Find a time when its not too busy at the shop and ask her to keep you company while you have lunch, you get to talk with her a bit longer and you are again a step closer. Or just drop a "hey, you're fun, we should continue this conversation somewhere else some time, what day do you get early off work?" She seems into you, make it look non-threatening and she'll accept it, and voila, you'll get her number too so that you can arrange the meet
quite exact estimate by your mate

The two of you have a common interest which is the business thing. I say you should ask her if she wants to meet for drinks and talk over business topics and go from there. Basically stealing her underhandedly.

cheers guys.

jurupa, I think ur right about asking her if she wants to go out for drinks to talk about business, I think ill try it

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That's what I thought too... its nice to know im learning some of the tricks.

So, howd it go? Any luck?

well not really... this is how it went..

I went in to get some food, I asked how her day was she replied "it was good I went shopping" so I ask what did you buy and she said "a nice little nighty and a mini skirt which is soo mini its barley anything" and I replied "nice.." and she said "yeh its for a freinds bday party".. after she served me she wrote "loser " with a lil man pointing a tongue on the roll wrapper lol.. then i said "how come your not wearing your tag" and she said "because some ass hole called up b4 and complained about the food" (the asshole shes talking about is me coz I called b4 and made a complaint for her number for a joke) lol we were laughing.. then I left the store..

I then wrote down on a napkin " Hey Loser next time write your number down, namecalling is rude " then I put my number down the bottom and placed it on her car. I then called the shop and made a complaint and I said "I would like to make a complaint, there is a fly in my meal.. lol nah jj, I saw some asshole at the front writing something then he placed it on this blue car (her car) she was loosing it laughing.. then I hung up.. 15 min later she called me back.. and she said "you do know I have a bf" and I said "yer" and she said "well why do you keep comming back" then I froze and said "i dunno.." then she said to me I shouldnt go back coz I am to much of a distraction???

WTF??

girls lol ?

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Damn, that's a hard one, it probably would have thrown me too. Maybe turn it into a backhanded neg/compliment combined (assuming she makes the coffee, this still works even if she doesn't):

"well, why do you keep coming back?"
"bad service, but the best coffee in town"
with the right kind of smile this seems to fit really well into your previuos convo.

I wonder if you could put her on the spot somehow by making it sound like you didn't think you'd been coming back that much and she was just noticing/obsessing over you. But that'd be hard to not make it turn into an argument or an option for her to spurn you. Youd basically be setting yourself up for rejection by saying that had the meaning "you reckon? I go to this other place "blah blah" so much more", although actually maybe that cud also work?

Just a general pua question though is how do you deal with this sort of stuff on the fly? Its all very well to make it up after the fact like an armchair general, but how do you get the vergbal speed to just be able to do it on the spot? Practice i guess.

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what subway we talking about

lol

PUA: Actually I don't... Your imagining me


You are being TOO careful while with her! This causes you to freeze-up and be creepy in a way that everyone notices easily.

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i think the playing around you did was good, like calling and complaining but i think you did it too much, it made her laugh the first time, but the more you do it the less funny it gets and then it becomes annoying, thats prob why she didnt mind before but after she was like' yeh, dont come back'. she probably sees you as a bit of a clown, no offense, but thats what im thinking when i read this.

plus i think the main reason is that the knot is too tight with her bf, every couple has a fight but it doesnt mean they will break up, maybe she was just looking for some comfort and attention when she told you. or maybe she was just cock teaseing you. thats all im thinking anyway.

I mean, first off, I don't mess with chicks with a BF.

But you did things too, how should I say it... too friendly

(friendly is not exactly the word I'm looking)

but she see's you as a friend... you did no DHV, no kino, no nothing...

maybe just a few negs...

you made her feel like she's the prize,

when your a PUA, you gotta remember that your the prize, not her.

When your trying to get her number, don't make it obvious that your

trying to game her...

Just make it seem normal and no big deal...

almost like your not interested in her...

but I don't know if you'd be able to fix what you've already done

anyways, you should be gaming more than one chick if you want to

learn how it's done...

experience is the best teacher...

she gave you a 60% discount and brought up BF problems, she wants to handle something more than a subway sub. lol

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Hey guys (i guess I don't have enough posts to put up a new thread). Apologies if i shouldn't be doing this... but guys this is really important to me!

Sofar there's new 2 girls I'm pretty interested in that I've met.

I just started school 2 days ago exact. I've had literally no AA and I've been opening to groups of people/girls with no problem.

One girl (who I only see at lunch) that I talked to yesterday and today... I was introduced by a female friend to her, talked, gave comfort, threw some light negs in, did the guessing numbers esp games and got both ones right (yay lol) she thinks im psychic or crazy cuz i could guess what number she was thinking of... she then had me guess her birthmonth.. I asked her how creative she was.. and she said she was pretty creative. I asked her if she was really outgoing. she said ehhh. so then i was like. that eliminates this sign, that sign, this sign, etc. then i narrowed it down between like april-june... i guess april and it was may. but she was still amazed. Then I told her nice meeting you but I have to go...

hah. today I did some handwriting analysis where she wrote on a notepad "My shirt is red"... I have absolutely no idea about real handwriting analysis so I said, I noticed you didn't write a period... do you constantly not write periods? then I talked about that relates to how in when good situations or in good places she isn't the type of person to just want to stop having fun, that she's a person that likes to keep things going and going. and I had her visualize an awesome day at an amusement park and I tried to get her to replicate those emotions and amp them etcetc. then I said ok stop imagining but keep those emotions... I'm gonna play a new game. Then I read her palms... I did the "retard line" game and she was hilarious ! lol she was asking her friends and blah blah.. tons of kino as she was constantly grabbing my hands and arms to see my "retard line" on my palm. lol.. anyway I guess when I was looking the other way or talking to one of my friends (Who i introduced DHV style as the only kid who could sleep during any class and still get a 4 or 5 on the Ap test) her or her friend wrote on that one notebook her full name and her number on it and it said "call me"...

What I really want to do is K-close her at school. and soon. Lately I've been on a mad roll and I've been learning so much so i want to keep things going!! lol I've goten mad Ioi's... I'm thinking I can DHV a bit more, we have similar interests and both ambitious, then I want to sort of ignore her in her group, maybe have her hold something for me.. lol and gain even more trust with her friends, tell them about all the parties this summer, make a dhv story about how schools here so I'm trying to focus more but I tend to hang out with friend's too much and go out too much (which is pretty true).. Then invite the target out for a walk because I want to see a friend across the school and she should come. I'm thinking I'll sit her down after talking, anywhere, but not anywhere that would draw us too much attention. I'm gonna try some ross Jeffries tomorrow. Have her think of that feeling of absolute attraction to someone else.. give it a color, wavelike properties, the whole thing etc... then from there either ask her if she wants to kiss or go into evolutionary phase shift routine.

bam!

tipstipstips! lol

but heres my REAL problem.

There is a German exchange student. Here for 3 months only.

sits RIGHT next to me in an art workshop class. HB 8-8.5 especially because she looks so different from all the other girls. Her hair is brunette with slight tint of red.. perfect skin. etc.

sofar this is what I've done when it comes to interaction with her...

first day of school she sat way down the long ass table.. we cought eyes a few times. bell rang. i walked with a friend and told him to look at her solid nice legs and butt (she was wearing jeans) and I was just like damn man I want that, she needs me!!! She went another direction to her class. My friend was like go get ur girl! i was like aight i got it bro.. lol

I walked to the room she entered.. I pulled out my schedule and was like what room is this guys?? ohh.. wow. wrong room.. then i was in front of her. she smiled to me. I gave that "hey ive seen you before right?" look, I said hey I remember you... She said yes we had that last class together!
I put my hand out palm up, she grabbed it softly and we held for a few seconds before I said I didn't get your name.. she said her name and what's yours? I probably could've joked and said a celebrity or someone but I said my real name. Then I said hey well I'll seeyu, .. left. i felt good enough just for the approach ya know. cuz I honestly think nobody in our school has tried yet.

so today... we got seating arrangements for the class. i set right next to her. there were 3 ppl in our table. we exchanged small talk.. i mean SMALL talk. then we had group activity.. we had to talk to eachother and learn about eachother. for some reason the two girls CLICKED one girl had german grandparents and the other was full german so they talked about guess what? yea.. you guessed it.

anyway i didn't really get any talk in but I got in that my summer was tons of party/fun, maybe too much, so now I'm sort of recovering from that lifestyle trying to settle down just a littttle bit right. So then we present our groups... you're suppose to present someone else at the table right? So girl 1 presents girl two.. then girl two presents girl one... I'm left all by myself!!!

so i decide to be funny.. "hey, looking around and pointing to myself, This is matt! Over this summer he did a whole lot of everything. maybe a little too much. anyway, I'm hungry so I think I'm gonna eat now. " everyone laughed since it was obvious they forgot about me.

After that we didn't talk for the last 10 mins of class. For the first time in a long time i was completely thoughtless on what to say to this german babe..

anyway.

Should I just treat this like any other girl?
Can you guys tell me your best stuff to build rapport with her...
I have 3 months. She has 3 months. She also might have a bf back over there.. so take that into account.

+10!!!!!