so wen u ask her and she says no for what ever reason, at least we need some kind of dignity. any1 hav any advice on how to show DHV after rejection for a date?

I depends on the context but in general pretend that rather then asking her out your asking her to take $100 from you.

HB:it's been nice talking with you
u: Well, you know I've been thinking and I thought it might be nice if you had this $100 bill of mine
HB: oh... that's sweet...but no
u: really? Seriously- you don't want $100- for free?
HB: it's just that I'm not interested in $100
u: how could you not be interested in $100??
HB: well it's just that I have $100
u: so what- you could have $200 - hell I got a grand it's not like I'm asking you invest in some shady dividends account in the Cayman Islands...
HB: ya, well we'll see


So that's how it would go in your head- this is what it would look like in real life:

HB:it's been nice talking with you
u: You and me should go out tomorrow night- let's meet at the park around 7
HB: oh... that's sweet...but no
u: really? Seriously- you don't want to meet up?
HB: it's just that I'm not interested
u: how could you not be interested?
HB: well it's just that I have a bf
u: so what- you could have two bf's- hell I got a million gf's - it's not like I'm asking you to marry me
HB: ya, well we'll see
u: ok then- tomorrow at the park at seven.

Hey how we all doing?

If you do not get what you want in an interaction make a side note in your head and go back later.

eg go for kiss close and she pulls away

Ignore it and keep threads going

The fact that you don't care and are still willing to talk to her is the biggest dhv you can do. It shows that your not needy and also that your not just trying to take what you want from her. The best game is to roll with the punches, know the theories and laws but make it your own.

ChowforNow,

the--------------------------------------->Saint

"Whether or not you agree with his harsh, straight to the point mentality, truth be told, he’s the most active/ dedicated / motivating member on this board. He’s routinely getting newbies and current members out sarging, pushing them into sets, given them suggestions and advice, replying to posts more often then anyone else. (Come out Wednesdays and you’ll see what I mean). Also, I have not once heard him making excuses about not going out and pussying out. If anyone else can show me this, I will automatically promote you to any status that you want on this board. (including admin).

Now .. I (and others) .. have tried a more sugar coated / feel good approach to getting guys to come out. Truth be told, it hasn’t worked anywhere close as well. I'm dissappointed that with all the free resources, and the cool guys that we have offering free advice, so few people actually make use of it, go out consistantly, and get better with women, instead of dabbling and keyboard jockeying."

"How did it start?Well, I dont know.I just feel the craving.I see the flesh and it smells fresh.And it's just there for the taking."

"Looking at my own reflection When suddenly it changes Violently it changes Oh no there is no turning back now You've woken up the demon in me"

"Only see, somehow it always seems that I'm learnin' or something I can never be It dosen't matter to me, 'cause I will always be that pimp I see
in all my fantasies I don't know your fucking name.So what?
Let's.fuck"

"Scrutinize every word, memorize every line
I spit it once, refuel, reenergize, and rewind
I give sight to the blind, mind sight through the mind"

I like that thought

I agree with saint, don't show needyness if she doesn't want to go out, ok cool, ttyl or w.e, its her loss. Move on

Also! Keep n mind that some girls have ligitamate excuses, so don't be an ass just cuz she had something to do, ask her some other time, and don't push it either!!

My best friend is a girl, who's cute but has a banging ass, do she's got a couple of guys after her. She tells me shit n I learn from her, for 1, she admited that she often cancels dates with guys she thinks are cute or totaly HOT!... WHY? Well cuz she's shy, yeap that's it that's her excuse, u can't blame her either...since most of us understand what it means to be shy of the opposite sex.

Get one of her friends into bed.

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I agree with undefined... don't seem like a chump, just say 'k', or something low-key like that.

I like to take it a little further and say something along the lines of, "k but that's strike one _____-insert name"... this works everytime for me... EVERYTIME.

You will most likely get two outcomes... she will either be so flattered by your remark that she will not know what to say and will just, sounds good..

or she will say something like, "but i get infinite strikes"....

either way, you will be able to lead into your previous conversation next tiem you see her, whether that be at work, school, play or whatever... I believe it is fundamentally important to leave some kind of 'catch phrase', or 'remark' if you will, that she can recall next time she encounters you...

and so, next time you see her, you poke at her strike and then she will automatically recall your previous conversation... it will please her dearly... and the attraction is now even stronger.... you know where to go from there

Good hunting.

A

Nice thinking, Alfie, I like the catchphrase.
I unintentionally left one behind myself sometimes now that I think about it and it was very helpful!
Good idea turning it into a routine-answer!

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Don't hate the player - Hate the game!

I would say "your loss!"
Then I would DHV or go for kino or willing to leave, one of these that she really feels it's her loss!
Then some later time I try with something like "I'm going to ----- on saturday, you should come with me"
Then most likely she answers positively

Personally i always ask them to join me...it does not sound like a date, it sounds like they should come along for the amazing time im about to have.

If they make a comment to the fact they think its a date and they dont want to go, play it off.

aww thats cute, you thought i was asking you out? I just met you, its going to take a bit more then your good looks before we go that road. Lets save that for another day! Instead join me (and friends) and just enjoy yourself. If your as much fun as i think you might be and your lucky we can talk about the date thing. (then hand them a pen and paper or cell phone for the number)


or anything along those lines. The object is to ask them out without really asking them.

~ Mystic

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yes well said mystic... making it not sound like a date puts a lot less pressure on yourself and your target... "dates" are so formal... sounds like somethin an AFC would say hahaha...

I think this is why we should try to bounce with the girl, after we've built up A & a little C.

Also, I saw something good from Mystery where he said, don't just get the number and leave, stay for five minutes after you get the number. The target is less likely to get buyer's remorse.

I think you want the target attracted to you like steel to a magnet. She can't resist your pull.

But back to the original question, I don't think you want to be asking a girl for anything. You want to be saying, "Hey, me and the gang are doing such and such, its going to be a blast, you should come! There will be a lot of cool people there." If she says no, say, "Too bad, you would have had a great time, maybe next time."

When that happens you have to make it look like your the one that is coming off better from it... if you have the time neg her and start again...

I asked this HB 9 that works where I do to go out with me one time. She said "No, I don't believe in dating people I work with". I said "yeah, take a few days to get over that and let me know when you change your mind". I then ignored the hell out of her except for normal polite "Hi, how are yous" for a few days. A little over a week after she turned me down, she came up to me and asked me to go out with her. I told her I had plans (I really did). She said "well what about next weekend". I agreed. We went out and she was lame as hell. The point is they expect you to fall apart when they turn you down. When I stood strong against her rejection, I could see it in her face that she would give in. Its all about frame. I remind myself everytime that I go in that I am the prize and this is my world. I think Im getting the hang of this stuff.

if she said no than just say you had already something interesting planed.

or if this happens

u:so you wanna meet some time?
she: amm not really i have a boy friend.
u: so? i have a girlfriend ! but we don't believe in monogamy.

if she's not interested, it's easy to leave from here without strong rejection feelings. show her she's not the only interesting person you can meet up with.