open with the who lies more men or women opener
that shud start a mini debate... (hopefully they will say men do, then u can play devil's advocate and say no women do, listing all the times women lie, like for age, weight etc etc)

as that convo comes to a close, u can start the "Liar game" as u wud already be on the topic of lying.

Some of u know how this game works. It involves the woman telling u: a place she wud love to visit, a store she loves to go to, and the name of her first boyfriend... one of which is a lie, and u have to pick which one she's lying about... it really doesnt matter whether u get it wrong or not.

Get it right, u can neg her, be like, wow ur not a good liar... how.. fun that must be for u... ha ha ha.

If u get it wrong, u can reward her a little, be like, hmm yeah... ur good.

Remember... she mentioned a place she wud love to visit in the game, so u can ask her about that. Her telling u all about Egypt for example and how much she wud love to see mummies and camels and shit, is a gold mine for u to stack forward... easy.

Field tested, worked for me. What do u guys think?

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*The Jester*

seems good. I have to try that, since I have problems on stacking

Yeah dude. No worries hope it helps, let me know how it goes if u try it.

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*The Jester*

How about continuing that stack with another basic routine.
All you have to do is while you are talking to HB about the place she loved is make a gesture, such as scratching your neck or fix your tie.
After you do this three or four times during that conversation you start talking about something else. When you do that say something like " I´m sure that you, like me could do with a top up" and as you say the words "you like me" talk slowly and make the gesture.
This is just an easy nlp routine that you can add to the stack.

i rekn u could also throw in Style's "5 Lies Game" on top of this stack.. [as it too is based on lying]

you could say somethin like "haha ok ur not a bad liar" [if u lost the Liar Game]
"but i bet u cant answer my next 5 questions with 5 consecutive lies" - then go straight into the the 5 Lies Game. [as she just beat u in the "Liar Game" she'll be more inclined to bet u a drink or somethin]

then simply neg her once she loses. =]

and btw revolver that NLP routine is solid gold.. definitely gonna test that one out. =]

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"Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and fuck the prom queen."

www.attractwomen.com.au

yea that sounds good.. the liar game i mean. i don't really enjoy canned openers (i.e who lies more). but if i'm ever in the topic of lying or actually i generally just say random things/speak my mind... i could probably just throw that in my game if i remember it at the time.

PUA: "hey let's play a game! i want to see how good i am at catching liars"
HB: "haha ok sure"

start that routine and work from there like you said. sounds good...

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by Casual (Age 20, Upcoming PUA)

1. who lies more opener
2. followed with the 5 lies game
3. you win she gets you a drink
4. ????
5. profit

hahaha yehh sounds good..

>:3

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"Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and fuck the prom queen."

www.attractwomen.com.au

Yeaah mates.... its an opener... it opens... not closes... you gotta be creative and work from there.... -_- lol

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*The Jester*

Yes, that is a very effective method and it should yield some good results.

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i lust for jessica alba, but now since she is preggers. I am lusting for Nicole!!! It's New Year's Day. It was Ben Franklin who said, "Be always at war with your vices, at peace with your neighbors, and let each new year find you a better man."

Where can you get the Style 5 lies routine?

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Mystery Videos and Audio Stuff:
http://www.expert-advice-online.com/mysteryfromvh1.html

here a link for a demo of the game by Style himself:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aWoN8MvGKw

also, im pretty sure its stickied so check the top of the routines section for a written description of it..

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"Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and fuck the prom queen."

www.attractwomen.com.au

I will give this a shot tonight

I would name if ur best girlfriend instead of first bf.

HiI really don't understand this. Other guy says its gold but uh why? Btw I'm dutch. I dont know what "you like me could do with a top up means"?