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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 8:27 pm 
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I was thinking of a possible line for a girl who might need to step off her pedestal!

So you approach a girl who looks like she is clearly dressed to impress which is like 99% of the time whether it's in a bar, mall, restaurant, wherever pretty much!

This will start off the best if you make good eye contact with her and she gives you the (AI) Approach Invitation.

**Oh and (…) means 2 sec pause's**

Now when you head over she'll be expecting you to say something that compliments her look.

You: Wow you look…well you know.(Look away while you say this part so it seems
like her "look" isn't holding your attention).

HB: "What?"

You: "Like a clown"(don't be face to face with her when saying this part.
Instead still be looking around. With this movement, this line can be said in a joking way or a serious way).

*Eye contact and speech/mouth go hand in hand. If you don't have one without the other it's not as powerful*

After that line is said give a 2-3 second eye contact. This will let her know even though your eyes have been wondering off you are still in this conversation. And if she wants more eye contact she's gonna have to work harder for it.

Obviously calling her a clown will offend her so she'll respond saying such things as:

HB: "Why a clown"/"Wow that was rude"/"You're the one to talk"/"Ouch that hurt"/"You're a jerk"

*Some of these replies(depending on how high and mighty she thinks she might be) could be shit test. A test to see If you'll fall back(Nice Guy) and say something like "I'm sorry I didn't mean to offend you"*WEAK* or saying "I was just kidding you look gorgeous"

Nevertheless hold your ground(frame), be a man. This isn't the playground anymore, girls fight back. You're gonna show her you bow down to no one.

Reply#1-The Walk Away*Said to an HB that's not really having it
You:(Look at her and say)"Hey look I gotta tell you…"(then look over her shoulder like something just caught your eye)

Then say,

You: "Hold that thought"(This line will send her a subliminal message like"hey I'll possibly return to talk to you")

*Walk past her a good 20 feet and go and meet someone random, join a group of people, meet up with a friend, just make it seem like it was so important that you needed to leave*

Go back to the HB after 5 minutes or maybe not at all.

Reply#2-The Riddle*Possibly good for a group of HB
You: "Riddle me this, I cover what's real, hide what is true, but sometimes bring out the courage in you. What am I?"
HB: "I dunno know"/"What?"/"Make up"
You: Make up! 99.9% of women wear make up correct?
HB:"Ya"/"I guess"/"So"/"What's your point?"
You:And it hides what?…the truth. So when a girl judges a guy on his appearance doesn't that make her a hypocrite?'
HB: Blah blah blah
You: You can go into the 'Who do you think lie more Girls or Guys' Routine

*Add a joke if you want-When you ask me if your ass looks fat in those jeans I'm gonna say "hell ya and I like it. I speak the truth"

You: Isn't that what you want from a guy? Touch my shirt
HB: touches
You:Do you know what material it is?
HB: no
You: Boyfriend material
*Courtesy of Skills360

Reply#3-My Nephew*Said to an HB that's upbeat and is fun
You: "Hey look…"(put your hand on her ARM not shoulder. This will let her know even with a sharp mouth you have a soft touch)

And proceed by saying,

You: I think you have a fun personality and I hate how this is short notice but my nephew is having a birthday party…and we need a clown(Say this last part with a smile and pass her your phone at the same time)

In Summary it would look like this

You: *eye contact HB*
HB: *eye contact back with (AI)
You: "Wow, you look…well you know"
HB: "What?"
You: "Like a clown"
HB: "Why a clown?"/"Wow that's rude"/You're the one to talk"/"Ouch that hurt"/You're a jerk"
You: Reply#1
Or
You: Reply#2
Or
You: Reply#3

Or your very own reply!

Would love to get feedback to see what you guys think…Any opinions on making it better would be most appreciated

Thank you!

I will be trying this out this weekend!

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 9:25 pm 
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I was thinking of a possible line for a girl who might need to step off her pedestal!

So you approach a girl who looks like she is clearly dressed to impress which is like 99% of the time whether it's in a bar, mall, restaurant, wherever pretty much!

This will start off the best if you make good eye contact with her and she gives you the (AI) Approach Invitation.

**Oh and (…) means 2 sec pause's**

Now when you head over she'll be expecting you to say something that compliments her look.

You: Wow you look…well you know.(Look away while you say this part so it seems
like her "look" isn't holding your attention).

HB: "What?"

You: "Like a clown"(don't be face to face with her when saying this part.
Instead still be looking around. With this movement, this line can be said in a joking way or a serious way).

*Eye contact and speech/mouth go hand in hand. If you don't have one without the other it's not as powerful*

After that line is said give a 2-3 second eye contact. This will let her know even though your eyes have been wondering off you are still in this conversation. And if she wants more eye contact she's gonna have to work harder for it.

Obviously calling her a clown will offend her so she'll respond saying such things as:

HB: "Why a clown"/"Wow that was rude"/"You're the one to talk"/"Ouch that hurt"/"You're a jerk"

*Some of these replies(depending on how high and mighty she thinks she might be) could be shit test. A test to see If you'll fall back(Nice Guy) and say something like "I'm sorry I didn't mean to offend you"*WEAK* or saying "I was just kidding you look gorgeous"

Nevertheless hold your ground(frame), be a man. This isn't the playground anymore, girls fight back. You're gonna show her you bow down to no one.

Reply#1-The Walk Away*Said to an HB that's not really having it
You:(Look at her and say)"Hey look I gotta tell you…"(then look over her shoulder like something just caught your eye)

Then say,

You: "Hold that thought"(This line will send her a subliminal message like"hey I'll possibly return to talk to you")

*Walk past her a good 20 feet and go and meet someone random, join a group of people, meet up with a friend, just make it seem like it was so important that you needed to leave*

Go back to the HB after 5 minutes or maybe not at all.

Reply#2-The Riddle*Possibly good for a group of HB
You: "Riddle me this, I cover what's real, hide what is true, but sometimes bring out the courage in you. What am I?"
HB: "I dunno know"/"What?"/"Make up"
You: Make up! 99.9% of women wear make up correct?
HB:"Ya"/"I guess"/"So"/"What's your point?"
You:And it hides what?…the truth. So when a girl judges a guy on his appearance doesn't that make her a hypocrite?'
HB: Blah blah blah
You: You can go into the 'Who do you think lie more Girls or Guys' Routine

*Add a joke if you want-When you ask me if your ass looks fat in those jeans I'm gonna say "hell ya and I like it. I speak the truth"

You: Isn't that what you want from a guy? Touch my shirt
HB: touches
You:Do you know what material it is?
HB: no
You: Boyfriend material
*Courtesy of Skills360

Reply#3-My Nephew*Said to an HB that's upbeat and is fun
You: "Hey look…"(put your hand on her ARM not shoulder. This will let her know even with a sharp mouth you have a soft touch)

And proceed by saying,

You: I think you have a fun personality and I hate how this is short notice but my nephew is having a birthday party…and we need a clown(Say this last part with a smile and pass her your phone at the same time)

In Summary it would look like this

You: *eye contact HB*
HB: *eye contact back with (AI)
You: "Wow, you look…well you know"
HB: "What?"
You: "Like a clown"
HB: "Why a clown?"/"Wow that's rude"/You're the one to talk"/"Ouch that hurt"/You're a jerk"
You: Reply#1
Or
You: Reply#2
Or
You: Reply#3

Or your very own reply!

Would love to get feedback to see what you guys think…Any opinions on making it better would be most appreciated

Thank you!

I will be trying this out this weekend!
I'm quoting a qoute. Don't know why haha

Anyway. Love that you are working on body language, eye contact, pauses etc but don't get to carried away.

You need to break them down and focus on them one at a time. Otherwise you will find that you forget them or the girl say's something you never anticipated and you have to improvise or you just don't pull them of naturally.

Don't tell a girl she looks like a clown or discuss her fat arse. Unless you a certain you can pull it off correctly and calibrate afterwards :) I would either research more on 'negs' or avoid using them if I was you.

I like that you think of as many possible responses by girls. It shows that you are putting effort into what you are doing. It will pay off as well.

That boyfriend material line by Skills360 is awesome. Made me laugh that! I have heard it before, just didn't know where. Lines like these will get girls laughing.

Avoid the negs for now and stick to the material that gets the girls laughing.


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2012 2:21 am 
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Thank you very much for your insight. Ya a definitely can get carried away easily when I talk to girls.

I try and do Negs because I want to stay away from that nice guy mentality

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2012 11:08 am 
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Thank you very much for your insight. Ya a definitely can get carried away easily when I talk to girls.

I try and do Negs because I want to stay away from that nice guy mentality
Nega are so difficult to get right when you first start though. They require a certain amount of skill and conviction.

Think about it, you are new to pick up and one of your first missions you have given yourself is to approach a self-assured HB9/10 and borderline 'insult' her. Doesn't sound right does it! That's because it isn't. Avoid negs until you fully understand how to use them. Then you can decide whether you actually need them at all :)

Their are so many better ways to sepeate yourself from that 'nice guy' image. A break in rapport, kino escalation, flirting etc


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2012 8:44 pm 
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Thank you very much for your insight. Ya a definitely can get carried away easily when I talk to girls.

I try and do Negs because I want to stay away from that nice guy mentality
Nega are so difficult to get right when you first start though. They require a certain amount of skill and conviction.

Think about it, you are new to pick up and one of your first missions you have given yourself is to approach a self-assured HB9/10 and borderline 'insult' her. Doesn't sound right does it! That's because it isn't. Avoid negs until you fully understand how to use them. Then you can decide whether you actually need them at all :)

Their are so many better ways to sepeate yourself from that 'nice guy' image. A break in rapport, kino escalation, flirting etc


That's solid advice man, I appreciate your time helping me out on this.

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