so last night I was working a 2 set at my friends party. hb9 and hb8. hb8 was my target because 9 had dated a former friend of mine and i know shes a waste of time(and oxygen).

hb8 was being shy the minute she got there so i instantly neg her. i say "hey....stop being shy. smile or something, i bet you have a nice smile."
she gives a half hearted smile and i said
"well....im a liar"
go back to mingling around the room and eventually go back over to set up a beer pong team with hb9. as i'm talking to her i glance over at hb8 and say "hey. what'd i say? mingle or something" then i look back at hb9 and do the "is she always like this?" routine and immediately receive a "oh fuck you" from hb8. this sends me into AFC mode and i say "hey im just joking calm down ma'am" with a shit eating grin on my face.

the party goes on and i neg her off and on, play some bp with her friend. just being my loud self after 20 monster energy drinks(alcohol hadn't hit yet). i turn around to grab a smoke and hb8 says "can you get me a drink?" to which i reply "do i have bitch written on my forehead?" and my friend leo immediately starts laughing and looks at me in a very drunken state and spouts off "dude....i dont see it either." and she clams up.

the night goes on and im slowly recouping that trash when another friend of mine shouts "dude you better get laid tonight" after that my mood was killed and moved onto not caring when i landed the girl from my post about the leg sweep routine.


could i have handled those things better? any advice?

Bah! We all make mistakes. Take it as a learning experience or it could cripple your game! Good job if you've already done that.

I see you tried to use negs asap, and you didn't have an opener that would initiate an interesting conversation.

You did quite a move there, but you should of seen her attitude coming from a mile away. She was shy for one, and you knew that much. She probobly feels the same way you felt when she sad "oh fuck you".

I recommend not drinking when spittin game, so that you could game your best. That's just me though.

"is she always like this" is a neg. not a routine.

The way you responded to "can you get me a drink?" was more of an insult than a neg. try to avoid using the word bitch.
Also, if you were using it as a neg, your going to have to have superior body language, tone, and rapport if that's going to fly. Or... she has to interpret that response in a playful manner.

next time, be friendly. when you neg, you dont look for a reaction. if you neg, move on to something. like a routine or another conversational thread.

do more push and pull. like "you have a great smile, it's quite beautiful... actually... it's the 4rth best smile I've seen all week." stuff like that.

at least you tried. props there.

best advice: build more experience
without experience, you can't learn or improve.

well i used to hang out with both of them almost every weekend before i went to boot camp so i figured i could go off previous knowledge of eachother.


my thinking is that it could be also the fact that before i left for boot camp i had pseudo confidence. was kinda AFC and did everything for everyone equating to me being lower than her.

ahh, i know what you mean. still ,its better to start of with an interesting conversation, to keep away from the idea of "let's just be friends".

I had a similar situation before.

This is seriously a tough situation, considering that she already has a first impression on you.

Do everything you can to build attraction. her attraction toward you more specifically. And do some kino.

I really don't know what you should do exactly. Your in damage control mode. I suggest you go sarging and find another girl.