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PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 7:09 pm 
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Hello, I just thought of a routine. I just need an opinion. I know it need works, because I never done this before, but here I go.

I am on a college campus.

I approach to a girl coming from an angle. I ask for direction.
I thank her, but before I leave, I ask her if she believes in psychic powers.

I will then say I am about to leave, but I will give her a free reading because she helped me out. At the reading, I will neg her of course.

And then from there I am lost. This is where I need inputs.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 10:36 pm 
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I don't get this. Why do you tell yourself you will be stuck if you haven't tried it? You're only limiting yourself with thoughts like this. What exactly would you lose in case it didn't work besides experience? Anyway... there's just absolutely no way that she won't give you anything to talk about after you're finished with "reading her".

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 11:12 pm 
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Thanks for your input,

but what I meant was after we finished the "reading" conversation, I do not know what to do next.

Like how should I attract her after the reading and how should I end the conversation.


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Well of course you end with closing or trying to close at least. That's very important when you're starting off. Always try to close because that's the best indicator of how you were doing.

Attracting is a more complex thing. I simply can not tell you just in a post "How do you attract girls" Read up and experience yourself what works for you. If you're using routines I suspect you're into Mystery Method which should be a good start. There are tons of remarks and routines for attraction in that book.

When you're talking to her, during and after the reading she will most probably react to what you are saying. That's the perfect time to demonstrate value, tell her something interesting that comes into your mind from her answer, or tease her.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 10:01 pm 
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Thanks for the input. Do you know what's a good closing for a newbie.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 11:50 pm 
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There is no such thing as a specifically newbie closing. The game is NOT like this:

-There's a part for the newbies

-There's a part for the intermediates

-There's a part for the experts

-There's a part for the masters.

I told you Mystery is good for you not because it is a newbie method but because it is systematic, it explains a lot of things, it has tons of examples, and thus it is a very good start for everyone starting the art of pick-up regardless of his level.

Anyway, a number close is not too complicated. You just tell her you want to get to know her better and ask for her number.(Preferable with a "Give me your number" Avoid this: "Would it be possible, that you may probably give your number to me? If it's not a problem of course...")

But the success of the close barely depends on the actual "closing line". It's more about how you present the line, and even more about how you did throughtout the interaction.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 3:34 am 
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If you were psychic, you would not need to ask for directions. If a girl says this your routine will be DOA.

In direct/daygame, you don't need to approach from an angle. Negs also aren't usually needed because women don't have their b*tch shields up on campus like they do in the clubs.

Why ask us if it will work? Just try it and figure it out. We could be idiots, and you could get lucky. In any case, you'll probably get much better feedback from doing it live than you will from a bunch of guys reading it online.

Not knowing how to deal with conversation/attraction/etc after a routine has been run is a good sign that someone is focusing way too much on routines, and not the conversation or interaction.


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Adapting is key with this stuff. If you do a "cold reading" then you have to play off of her response. If you say she loves Italian food and she agrees, then you might say something about how you have a favorite Italian place and move toward dinner there with her sometime. Just an example.

You're not doing the cold reading just to buy time. It is to push the conversation forward and learn information about her that you can then use to connect.

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