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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2012 5:47 pm 
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I've never heard of anybody in the community doing this as a gambit, Let me know if it exists already, If not, lets just call it............Drumroll Please............ "The High-Five Fakeout"

Most of you probably already know what it is just from the name, But imma go ahead and explain it anyway just in case. I've used it 19 times over 2 nights and so far it has worked really well for me....to the point where I considered not sharing it lol, but fuck it we all bros here, hope it works as well for you as it has for me...btw I got my first f-close at my place using this opener....it wasnt with the target though...aw well :(

It can be done with your wing as an opener/neg, or can be done with a girl when the target is her friend. (I tried 4 times to do it with a girl as an opener when they didnt know the target, but all 4 times they didnt want to embarass a girl they didnt know)

So heres how it goes for those of you who have no idea what im talking about:

-arrange it so that either you or your wing are in eyeshot of your target and the other person is behind her or at a slight diagonal angle.

- Give some type of signal (with my wing we just made eye contact, but with girls we tried doing like a Navy Seal SWAT team secret hand signal type thing, and when we did it, it either made them laugh or they would get into the role and throw a signal back)

- move in for the High-Five, and make it obvious so that the target sees you and automatically puts her hand up to match your high-five motion. Try not to make direct eyecontact with the target, instead try to have your eye contact be off juuust a bit so as to maintain plausible deniability that you were actually highfiving the person behind her (I have no idea If ''plausible deniability'' works in that sentence but I heard LoveDrop say it and it sounded cool)

- When the highfive is made and the poor target is left hanging, BOTH you and your wing look back at her and make a face that conveys just the right amount of moquery. Dont over do it though, because if you both look at her and go BWAHAHAHAHAH!!!! and point fingers, it might come off the wrong way and wont work as well.

- Sometimes the target will try to play it off and make a move like she was just touching her hair, this can be immitated and used to make fun of her, always in a playfull way ofcourse.

- You can also calibrate in both directions, either by consoling her with a pitty highfive, knuckle pound or hug or whatever, or for a double neg effect you can fake a pitty highfive and at the last second pull your hand away in a ''too cool for you type of move'' leaving her hanging once again (we tried the second fakeout 5 times, 3 times we got negative feedback because none of the girls laughed at the target and just looked at us like we were being meen, but twice it got laughs and one of the targets punched my wing in the arm)

- After you've opened with that just go into regular attraction material, But you guys already know that

- We did it 7 times using girls (I did 3 my wing did 4) but it was used several minutes in as a neg instead of an opener, we dont yet know if it works as an opener when done with a girl because like I said earlier we didnt get a chance to try it.

- The way we set it up was to game the targets friend for a bit then leave to ''Rejoin our friends'' and high-five her, then compliment the quality of her high-five, you can also add ''You look like a prankster'' then say ''lets do something funny, when I come back I'm gonna pretend to high-five your friend but instead im gonna highfive you'', (all the girls we tried this with agreed to do this to their friends, which was unexpected)

- This works much much better when your social proof is high, but then again so does everything else

- and also, if your giving the signal, make sure the target doesnt catch you do it or it messes it up.


- well there u have it! hope this is usefull to you, Let me know what you think, and if you try it let me know how it goes

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Thit sounds brilliant. I'd really hope I can use it but I'm affraid I don't have competent enough wings


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My wing doesnt know anything about the PUA community, hes just one of my friends who has decent skills with girls. the thing is, this can be just a fun drunk game to play with your buddy to make girls look silly, even if ur ''wing'' doesnt conciously know that its done with the purpose of attraction, YOU will still benefit from the reaction you get from girls.

By the way, it doesnt have to be planned, I they are lined up favorably, like leaning on the bar or sitting down something, you can just highfive a randome girl behind your target, you should get a similar effect

whatever the case I find its just a fun thing to do in a bar or club

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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2012 12:10 pm 
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I've never heard of anybody in the community doing this as a gambit, Let me know if it exists already, If not, lets just call it............Drumroll Please............ "The High-Five Fakeout"

Most of you probably already know what it is just from the name, But imma go ahead and explain it anyway just in case. I've used it 19 times over 2 nights and so far it has worked really well for me....to the point where I considered not sharing it lol, but fuck it we all bros here, hope it works as well for you as it has for me...btw I got my first f-close at my place using this opener....it wasnt with the target though...aw well :(
Every kid in America knows about the low-five fakeout. As far as the "community" goes Brad P. briefly touched on the high-five fakeout. I've also worked it into my golden routine that is consistent and in night game it has closed in 15 minutes (sometimes less). Although, the way I use it is simpler than what you've been trying. I gave two examples and I believe I included another example of using it to merge sets.

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Every kid in America knows about the low-five fakeout. As far as the "community" goes Brad P. briefly touched on the high-five fakeout. I've also worked it into my golden routine that is consistent and in night game it has closed in 15 minutes (sometimes less). Although, the way I use it is simpler than what you've been trying. I gave two examples and I believe I included another example of using it to merge sets.
MERGING!!!! dude I hadnt thought of that! bring your set to your wings set and fakeout his target lol im gonna try that tonight

and if you care to share your golden routine or other ways of using the fakeout It would be greatly appreciated

Thanks bro

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PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2012 1:24 am 
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MERGING!!!! dude I hadnt thought of that! bring your set to your wings set and fakeout his target lol im gonna try that tonight

and if you care to share your golden routine or other ways of using the fakeout It would be greatly appreciated

Thanks bro
No problem.

Not only can you merge your own sets, but also if you go in and the girl you fakeout is giving off more of a friend vibe you don't have to eject. Turn her into a cohort and start a game where she helps you set up your next target. Have her go stand by the next girl. When you go over open the new set as though the first girl is part of that set. Open your new pivot with whatever little thing might be worthy of a high five. Then you give her the high-five, which perfectly sets up the new girl for the fakeout. Now, you'll get the spike from the new girl (off the fakeout) AND you get a spike from the first girl because she's in on it.

So, what happens is the first girl will be a cheerleader for everything you're doing sending your social proof through the roof. At which point she may even find out she's jealous and she really does want you. Either way you win.


The full examples are in my book, but here is the gist: Combine every gesture and phrase into something that does more than one thing at once. Think rapid emotional cycling that builds on the last bit as a sort of constant push-pull. Just ask yourself: "When I set up something like the fakeout what emotion response will she have and what is the next more favorable emotional response to guide her into?"

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MERGING!!!! dude I hadnt thought of that! bring your set to your wings set and fakeout his target lol im gonna try that tonight

and if you care to share your golden routine or other ways of using the fakeout It would be greatly appreciated

Thanks bro
No problem.

Not only can you merge your own sets, but also if you go in and the girl you fakeout is giving off more of a friend vibe you don't have to eject. Turn her into a cohort and start a game where she helps you set up your next target. Have her go stand by the next girl. When you go over open the new set as though the first girl is part of that set. Open your new pivot with whatever little thing might be worthy of a high five. Then you give her the high-five, which perfectly sets up the new girl for the fakeout. Now, you'll get the spike from the new girl (off the fakeout) AND you get a spike from the first girl because she's in on it.

So, what happens is the first girl will be a cheerleader for everything you're doing sending your social proof through the roof. At which point she may even find out she's jealous and she really does want you. Either way you win.


The full examples are in my book, but here is the gist: Combine every gesture and phrase into something that does more than one thing at once. Think rapid emotional cycling that builds on the last bit as a sort of constant push-pull. Just ask yourself: "When I set up something like the fakeout what emotion response will she have and what is the next more favorable emotional response to guide her into?"
Good stuff, is your book available on amazon?

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