Hey guys,

I have a problem. I hate doing this indirect shit and talking to girls for 20 mins. Although I do get #s and dates off this.....it just sucks. When I go on dates all the girls want an ltr.

To be honest, I dont give a fuck where she goes to school, what she likes to do for fun, where she traveled....blah blah blah. I just want to fuck them.

My question.....Can u go up to a girl at a bar and say .....I have to be honest I think ur sexy and I wanna fuck u tonight?

Anyone tried it......I hate meaningless chit chat. I just wanna be honest with them and myself. Anyone done this at night or day?

The girls you are after are called prostitues.

The girls you are after are called prostitues.

It's possible you find a drunk girl one night and she might say yes, but I don't think this is a very good technique. You will have to do something to get her into bed you know. If you don't work, you don't receive money. If you don't make some effort, you don't get the girl.

If you haven't done it yet, I'd suggest you read 'The Game' by Neil Strauss. He talks about various techniques of picking up girls. You can choose whatever fits you best.

Work on your game and believe me, the girls will come along with experience.

yes you can do that,

but just switch the roles of this, imagine a girl did this to you, what would be the pre-text around you saying yes to her,

now reverse the rolls, how many women do you think would consider you qualifying amoung your same pretext, and keep in mind you are dealing with girls not guys (women tend to be more selective then guys), but yeah, ask enough girls to fuck you, eventually some will say yes and go home with you

but really your problem with ''indirect shit'' and ''this talk for 20 minutes'' is you are not leading, or expressing intent and taking action on it, if you want to get girls home without just some magical line (I would like to fuck you) then you have to just be confident with what you want, get to know her so she is actually comfortable with you, and fucking escalate (this is most likely the key you are missing in your game) up to getting her home, staying within the realm of your frame, even if you are indirect, she should be aware of your intent simply through your vibe, actions and words, you don't have to eplicitly state you are there to fuck her, but indirectly she should be well aware that this is your intent, or you are wasting your time, and expressing intent for something else figure out what you want, then figure out how to congruently express this, then take action, there are a million and one ways to tell a girl that you want to fuck her, and tons of them don't involve telling her you want to fuck her, figure out the most effective way for you (and this usually involes some form of asking her home, after that ''20 minutes of talking'' but hopefully she is on the same page as you are by then, if you have expressed your intent properly)

if you don't mind mass blowouts and back turns, and fucking any random girl that will have you simply by mass propositioning a shit load of girls for sex, then have at it, your results will be effected by

-how good looking you are
-how well you are dressed
-your bodylanguage
-how confidently you make the proposal and how unaffected you are by doing so (if you seem super nervous, or like it is just buisness as usuall)
-how you handle their reaction to the proposal
-your selection of girls you make your proposition to (some girls will be looking for a one night stand in a club, plenty will not be, but both can be swayed if the above listed factors seem heavily in your favour)

but if you have the emotional strength to go through the rejections and enough numbers to play off, hypothetically you can get laid almost every night doing this, but it would also probably be an easy way to catch a dick cold (just sayin), but you could catch one either way, so wrap it up and go for it

GOOD LUCK

fila your on the right track my boy and lol at "emotional strength" to go through all those rejections. The thing is when you get rejected that quickly you wont feel shit(maybe for like a min or 2), but isnt that much better than talking to some bitch for 30min about a bunch of uninteresting bullshit only to find out shes not interested in the end? That would hurt way more lol but the thing is with these indirect techniques is that they're designed to set you up so you never have to go through the rejection phase haha. Usually while going indirect you will just gradually stop talking to the girl so you dont feel rejected while in reality the reason it wasnt going well in the first place was because she was never interested and already rejected you in her mind to begin with, and will just talk with you to be polite and shit while shes fucking other guys who do have the balls to tell her they want to fuck her. Look up Alan Roger Currie and David X cuz its sounds like your about ready to step away from this indirect pussy shit.

YOU CAN DO EXACTLY THAT! This is Stelars Lay Report all credit goes to him.

"With this lay report I am giving something back to this community. You either learn something from it or you don't.

Saturday night , 2:47 am , "bellagio" nightclub.

She was standing facing the dance floor but not dancing and stroking her hair. For those who have developed a radar for those kind of situation ... she was there for a same night lay. I don't like rating women , but she was a 9 , nice ass , nice tits , but her face was too sweet for my taste.

I go directly to her , place my hand on her hip and :

Me : " We are 2 mature people and I am going to be honest and direct with you... you are very sexy and I want to fuck you tonight "

*complete shock + eye contact"

after 10 seconds of eye contact she says : "I don't know" ( and takes a step away from me )

This is one of the 3 variations of positive response and in this case I realize she never experienced something as bold as this , so after she shied away from me I quickly react.

Me " I am not going to apologize for what I want , but I am going to give you 5 minutes to recover. "

*perform takeaway" and went outside to smoke a cigarette.

I come back to her.

Me : "My name is Stelar"
She : "Adina" with a sweet smile.
Me : "It's already late and people are leaving , let's get out of here"
She : "Okay"

I take her hand and I make out with her in my car and we end up at her place.

-Clean and simple-


Note*

Direct done right cuts through all the BS and you get either YES or NO.

1. If you get a blank faced " No . thank you" or " I am not interested " then she is really not interested.

2. "Yes" has 3 variations

A) the case above is what I would call an "overload". when she wants it and doesn't know how to handle the situation. what you need to do is give her some space and she will come around.

B) This is the situation in which she throws a shit test. all you need to do is say to her that you won't apologize for being a man and leave for a short period of time.

C) This happens generally with mature women and in this case she will either jump you or tell you to wait to get her purse , coat , whatever and the job is done.

a very important element is eye contact. don't smile ,don't be angry , keep a plain face.

This is the pattern for 1 night stands."

Cold is exactly right...I read about this a few weeks ago and have just started getting into it. My buddy runs normal game and if he doesn't have a solid girl to bounce by 1am he uses the last 30 min before closing time to just play bar statistics.

He'll go up to 10-20 girls if need be with this same question and the success rate is normally 30-40 percent when he delivers it right and dresses with class. That's not a bad success rate for a line that takes under a minute to deliver.

If you're looking for girls to stick around but you want to avoid the routines and indirect game check out gambler and adam lyon's material about preselection. Start making female friends, take them out, know how to control body language and you'll instantly have celebrity status. Then you can motion a girl over and have one of your girls bring her to the after party.

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-Desire-

To Disillusion--- I agree with everything you wrote. Your spot on man.

I did this twice so far (at night) and the first reaction was "im not that type of girl". The second was "I dont want to sleep with u and never see u again".

I like this approach alot b/c i hate indirect shit. I hate meaningless chit chat.

I can deliver this on a one set. But anyone have advice for delivering this on a 2 set?
Anyone do this during the day? I have not done this yet.