This is all about Mary, a girl of our "going out" group. She's an HB9 I really like, but she isn't that outgoing, party-till-the-break-of-dawn kind of girl, so my guess was that the way to get her was building lots of comfort. So I successfully did. I get lots of IOIs the other guyz in the group don't get, including constant hand-on-knee while seated and leaning in to tell me something.

Problem is, a guy in the circle was gaming her since a week ago. She didn't hook up with him back then, but she didn't dismiss him either. He was all over her, doing AFC things like hand-on-shoulder and in the middle of a similar situation, I subtlely pinched her, and while appearing to keep paying attention to him, she secretly pinched my leg back right away.

But today, I was befuddled. They're together. I wonder why.

The guy does many AFC things, he's more into her than she is into him, overprotective (almost everytime a guy passes by, he shields her with his hand, as if he feels threatened) - my guess is he really wanted to get his hands on her, and now he's making sure it stays like that. He realised I am a threat.

She is still giving me IOIs.
She was a bit affected when I said I was going to leave, she insisted I stayed. And what I saw coupled with one of the guyz saw while I was away, she acted differently when I was anywhere near. She did less with him.

All that, and they kiss a lot. I can hardly understand what's she thinking.

What do you guyz suggest ?


As a side note, I just loved making so that I was challenged tonight by the guy to a staring contest, and I beat him right in front of her. Maybe it's nothing, but it felt good.

You said yourself shes a quiet, not really outgoing type of girl right?

And you figured the best way to get her is building lots of comfort? Well youre right, but step back and think about this for a second, if she requires comfort, what does that tell you about her overall desires and ways of working?

My guess would be because she wants to be protected.

Which is exactly what this guy is offering, hes being protective of her, but youre more fun, she genuinely prefers you over him, but shes with him because he provides her with comfort and safety.

You need to still out alpha this guy and figure out a way to show her you can be protective and provide security and safety for her whilst managing to inflate his actions so he seems like a jerk.

Perhaps make some comment about how hes treating her like an object trying to be over protective and that shes a person too. Point out his actions and exaggerate them. But show her you can provide the safety and comfort shes looking for.

Hope this helped!

Some Boyfriend Destroyer stuff I've read stated that trying to bash her BF will get her defensive and is a big no-no ... what do you think of this ?

It sounds like you could get her although she's occupied right now. A friend of mine convinced me that this is possible by solving a similar problem and he ended up getting the girl. I think he read xfman's blog(he didn't know what to do at first so you should be able to pull it off even if your no pro). I don't want to upset anybody so I wont post the link here(just to be on the safe side) But read xfman's posts or find his blog.

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