There was my ex gf's birthday the other day and I wrote her on facebook, we ended up chatting after a long time (we were together in 2006, I'm 26 she's 23 now). She was really happy about me writing her, she asked me if I wanted to visit her in Amsterdam, where she spends the next 2 semesters studying abroad. We are both single now.

I'd like to achive 2 things: fuck her as many times as I can and visit her in Amsterdam. But here is the tricky part.

She just came home to our home county and we are meeting on Friday night, going out to a bar, just the 2 of us. Now I really don't wanna ruin my chances of getting an invitation to Amsterdam. She just spends a few days here, than goes back to A'dam again.

How far should I kino escalate on Friday? Should I go for an f-close if she is into it? Or should I just keep it totally low risk, have a nice convo and wait for her to go back to A'dam and repear the invitation?

I don't know what would help more: A) going low risk, little kino, no k-close, no f-close or B) kino escalation all the way, fucking her brains out (but there is always a chance of resistance and faliure)

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Keep in mind that this is your ex gf that you have had lots of sex with before. The same rules dont apply here as they would with a brand new set.

I would say just go with whatever is natural, if she is not down for at least kissing you here, then your probably not going to get to fuck her later in another country. So looking at it that way, just be your useal charming laid back PUA self, move towards a kiss close when it feels right, and see how the evneing goes, if it goes good and seems right then sure go for a F-Close.

If you were to horriably fail at a F-Close now, then your odds of succeeding later probably arnt that good, cuz like i said, you both had already had sex and used to like each other, so the standered PUA rules arnt in full play here

I know I don't post much, but Ex-gf's are easy to re ignite that flame. When it comes to me I just act as if nothing really changed between us (as far as the kino and sex goes) and I am 100% garunteed for sex... but as in all situations it just depends. Just telling you what works for me, is just go at it like old times.

Ok, I failed miserably. We met at a bar and even tho she is normally a heavy drinker she didn't drink much with me, just 2 glasses of wine durning the 3 hours we spent together. I was kinoing her but no reponse. Than she told me that she had to leave because she had another party pre-booked at 10pm. But she told me I am welcomed to visit her in Amsterdam. I'm not sure if she just wanted to be polite coz she hasn't contacted me since.

I don't know WTF I messed up here. All I can think of now is 1 thing. We met in April and got really drunk than begun sex talk... at her place just the 2 of us... and I left without fucking or even kissing her (ok, I was stupid as fuck but I also had a gf than). Did that put me in the friend zone? How do I go on from here? Should I just write her and tell her that I would visit her in Amsterdam (I wanna go there anyway). And how do I f-close her now??

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"You miss 100 percent of the shots you never take."
Wayne Gretzky

I am no expert, but this is my analization take it for what it is.

For your date I would have had a few things planed out, some version of time bridging even though you already know her. It souds like she was kind of board. What type of establisment did you accompany her too. It should be something fun and something that reminds her why she liked you.

The kino thing is tricky, if she isn't drinking much and she isn't KINOing back, stop advances or she will see it for what it is and be annoyed or turned off by advances. Maybe you KINOed too early, if she was having a lot of fun with you and remembered why she dated you in the first place like I said eairlyer then when you KINOed there may have been some attraction to lead into the KINO.

What to do next: What do you have to lose by talking to her about going to Amsterdam? If she says she has lost interest in inviting you then you have lost nothing. If she says come over, go. What I think is important is to make your own plans for while your there. Don't be a parasite and depend on her for fun and adventure, especial if it seems like she invited you to be polite. Have fun things to do every day that will be fun with or with out her. Invite her but don't push her to come. If she doesn't have a blast, and if she asks about it tell her. Don't brag about how much fun you had, but make sure she knows she missed out and then she wont want to miss your next adventure.

If she joins you and is being boring and anti-fun, ask her whats up and leave her if she is not cheering up, dont let her suck your fun, not only is it not fun I dont think it will lead to orgasm. If she is having fun but wont return KINO flirt with other girls, not too much but enough to get her a little jealous.

Bottom Line: Go to Amsterdam, or at least try to. Dont bank on getting laid by your ex, but plan on getting laid by someone, give your ex first chance at you. Do some research on what to do, dont sit around and wait for her, plan your own schedule stay out of her hair. Be Alpha and tell her what you are doing and invite her.

Lastly: I am curious, post the result, let me know what worked and what didn't. Good luck