Just found an old post from fast seduction.com.
It is really inspiring!! A HB10 busted the game totally and showed no mercy.

Here s the post,Enjoy

Now! this is a very , very thing that happened. I could
not believe what happened. I go sarging, and i meet this
SHB10 at a bus stop. Now she is smoking hot! lovely
breasts(look fake but they are real), lovely voice. A girl
any normal male would love to sleep with , at least once in
a lifetime. So i approach her, by using ijjjji's opener 'nice
hair , is it real'. She smiles back. I think i'm in. She is
like NO. It's fake (wtf).

Anyway, i thought i would use at least 3 negs on her as she seems
to be all up about herself. So she is crossing her arms and i decide to use
swinggcat's cold reading ' you know you are an observer' .
she replies ' actually i'm an actor'. I'm like, wtf.So i
cold read her with exact Swinggcat method ' so you know
you seem to be acting all tough and stuff but you are
actually , she finishes 'very sensitive deep down'(wtf)

Anyway, I start kinoing her and she kinos me back as if i
am a girl and she is a guy. I think , dude, i am SO in.
Later on she totally ignores me! (wtf) and all i am
thinking in my head is that i do not want that god damn bus
to come. Then this AMOG comes from no where and tries to
take control. Easy as hell i become friends with him right
away, tell him, dude, these shoes are so popular, our
gardener has them and he goes all quiet. SHB10 Laughs.
Anyway, I fluff talk with her and use the neg, 'nice nails,
are they real'. Here comes the interesting part:

her: see now, you have one more neg to go according to
Mystery?

me: wtf are you talking about( totally shocked)

her: come on. You are an mASF member. You are trying to use
this stuff on me, right. If I wanted, I could have re framed
you so bad that you would be in love with me for 20 coming
years.

me: laughs. (touch her on her arm, underneath shoulder)

her: stop kinoing me. (I'm all shocked. wtf)

me: I was just...err..( i stutter)

her: you know, mASF is so hilarious. Who is your guru,
Mystery, Swinggcat, GUNWITCH...

me: (silent)

her: Swinggcat I guess

me: actually i don't know what you talking about

her: come on. (gives me a slight push)

me: ok. fine. a bit of all

her: (laughs)

me: how did you know i was running this on you

her: come on. You were using negs, such obvious ones and
swinggcat's cold reading. what do you think I am , an idiot

me: ok. fine. i'm busted , but out of curiosity, how many
people have approached you using this stuff.

her: none. you are the first one. and i find it so amusing

me: ok! ( now from here I can see a bus coming, so i tell her bye)

her: hey, before you go, don't you want my no.

me: ok, fine

her: got you again. Do you think I'll give you my no.

me: come on. This is disrespect. I'm off anyway.

her: see, honey. I was just kidding. I know you want my
no. Actually I would like to talk to you about mASF,
sometime

me:err ok.

By this time the bus comes and leaves. I'm relaxed. wondering
next time i approach a chick, should i ask , err, do you
know masf.


Ok. Discussion time.

Wt went wrong? I think he just kept falling into her frame and kept answering the questions.
It reminds me the "Sex Predator" routine.
Once you put a frame that "All women are sex predators" to a HB,
you can say whatever she does as a move of a "sex predator"
Same case here, the HB10 put the"Pick-up artist" frame, she can say whatever he does as a move of a "Pick-up artist"

I would admit it when the HB busted me , though the chance to save the pick up is low. =]
"Yeah. This shit is fun. I have like 500 more negs from Mystery."

Opinions?

hmmm, this chick would have made a perfect pivot I think. She already knews the game better then most guys, is fascinated by it, not offended and has a sense of humour. I bet she would have gone for that in a heart beat.

She likes the game, but sees herself as being too savvy to fall for it, which gives her a sense of supperiority not only over the guys but more importantly over the seduced chicks. her arrogance is her weakness.

Use her to fuck other hbs, then do the exact oppsite of the kind of stuff you normally would do. Brag about it to her, but in such away that she is drawn mentally into the experince. Maybe slip a subtle handmade pattern in there once you've figured out the extent out patterning. Get her thinking about all the pleasure these chicks are recieving, remind her how she's to smart to fall for any of this, then subtly remind her that she's going home to finger herself all alone, because she oh so cleaver, although not in such obvious terms.

Maybe even do some GM method on her later. Almost no one talks about GM any more so she's less likely to be familar with it.

Just a thought.

Although I've never met a chick that knew about this stuff, although I did use the same opener two different times on the same chick once.

this is why routines lifted off the net etc are bullshit, I have opened and hooked girls before and they have late rin the conversation mentioned that my confidence reminds them of some friends who are PUAs.

TBH run routines and stick to plans etc and you will fail because they are rigid structures and that is simply not how interactions work. Conversations and interactions are a fluid concept and should be treated as such

LOL OMG your pretty lucky! a girl like that is probably worth 10 girls!

i agree get her to help you pick up other girls.

you should have asked her how well PUA stuff works when she uses it to pick up women...

I agree with the others here, this chick is ideal to pick up other SHBs.

she can be your pivot AND give you a huge amount of social proof.

Of course tell her about all the pleasure that the other girls are getting from you and she will begin to wonder wtf am i doing fingering myself???

if it is any consolation I once got caught out with canned material on a chick. that was a few months ago and I was and am still fairly new to game. ALthough I have been gaming for a while it is only recently that I have started to apply some structure to what I do and understand what I do.

You handled being caught out veyr well. I wish I had been as smooth and cool as you were.

That's what happens when you use other people's material out of a book. Millions of copies are made and sold all over the world, and men and women alike read them. You're lucky she was such a good sport about it.

~Antithesis

That was a really fun story

I think the problem is you used so obvious negs and techniques like neging the hair or the nails are like.. the first examples. You should adjust all that stuff to you character and personality and come up with your own negs. Also use the routines when they fit in the conversations or make them fit. Trying to cold read her out of the blue might seem a bit wierd! hehe

Anyway I m still an AFC so maybe I m just saying bullshit but thats my opinion anyway If you adjust the game to your personality she can't be sure you are actually using it!

Cheers,
The Dj

I dunno about you guys but I wouldn't use her as a Pivot, I would totally like to get to know her better especially if she is a 10 and knows about PUA
Adam Lyon's wife is exactly like that, I think they even met in a similar way as in the post, she knew a lot about PUA....
Well it also depends what you are looking for, but dude I would love to befriend or even date a girl like that!

V3nu

The best way to disarm this chick would be instead of lying about you using routines on her, just go with the flow and say "Damn busted" and start asking her opinion about theories routines. With the level of her interest into these stuffs, she would likely to jump the loop and start talking about it.
If she still throw shits at you, ignore it and say "This is amazing, i mean how many chance in a lifetime would I meet some hot ass chick that is smart enough to busted my routines."
But yea this is only theory, ofc if a SHB10 busts me on my negs, I would stutter and my mind go blank for 15 sec, and mostly cant come up with this on the spot. lol

Right when she said One more neg to go mystery line. I would have said: Don't flatter yourself. You don't need that many negs. Wink. Walk away.

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"Don't touch me, I am evil."

Here I would have responded like this "No, Im not going to ask your number because I know you will/want to give it to me", then with little pause Wink and " Byebye!"

I said those exact words to a girl in a shopping centre once. Why I used it there was because she worked there and I knew I can see her again and ask her number next time. But what happend was that she managed to get my number somewhere and contaced me few days later, I dont know how and where she did get it but it was kind of a suprise to me.

I think it would have worked nicely for you because you were leaving already and she stoped you by asking why you dont want her number. What I said to that girl has probably never been said to her before like that, she thinks "huh, why you dont want my number!?" - drives them crazy It also shows that you dont care if you dont see her again, because you got plenty of other girls in your life.

My contingency plan if I ever get busted is to launch into a pre-prepared dhv story:
"Mystery? Who's he? If you really want to know, I got taught by my sister actually; she doesn't get the chance to go out much what with having kids. When I used to live around there, I'd babysit my nieces. Because she spends most of her time looking after them, she can't work many hours. Instead of paying me she taught me how to stop being that nice guy who all the girls just want to be friends with and how to get a girlfriend."
I can't think of any way she could bust you about this story other than telling you it's a dhv story (reply "do you think everything a guy says to you came from a book?").

Oh this is kind of fuckin' hilarious, I think too many negs, not enough excitement/ not impressing her.

I know it didn't happen to you but if I got busted like that. I would have said something like "Don't flatter yourself sweetie, you've got at least 10 more negs on you" but said it in a playful manner and laugh it off....trust me, she'd definitely be thrown off by that and think about it a bit more. From that point on, it's up to you to go for it or back out but if you continue to pursue, use a routine that's not really "textbook" and if it is, point it out to her and even make fun of it to acknowledge that you're spitting your own game and not anyone else's. Anyways, it's up to you but in either case, she'd be a great wing girl if nothing works out