Ok.. i get DHV... but how the feck can I tell someone something without being geeky and up my own ass.

I am a marketing director for a finanical management services firm....? I just end up coming across like a nob!

2 summers ago, a hot girl stalked me. Could I use this as a DHV? Wouldn't my target find this to be pretty impressive?

Thanks for the long post, Ka! That really helped.

Reading you, I realized that maybe I'm lacking the ability to express positive emotions in regards to what I do. And it's freaky how you got me almost right on the post in rewriting my story. I will probably tweak it a bit and add a personal touch to it when I have more time on my hands. Will also try to turn the 2nd one into DHV.

Thanks again.

PS: I will try to stop changing personalities from now on, haha.

Sonicw your very welcome, glad i could help.

As for you guys (Mikkyo and fcastig0220) you can use anything as a DHV story as long as you develope the story telling skills and are able to pull a positive message out of the experience.

First you have to beleive (even if it means tricking yourself) that what your saying has value. NO matter how good the story if you dont beleive its good then you'll never "sell" it.

Once youve done this you just need to put the story in a format that is appealing and intresting to others.

If you guys could give me a paragraph or 2 on a topic/story you have id be more then happy to help you turn it around.

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Ka, how about this:

Castig: I like how you don't come across as overly intrusive. In the past, I have had girls go to extreme measures to be with me. It's understandable as to why they would be so enthralled by me, but it can get a bit creepy.

HB: Ooooh, explain...

Castig: Okay, so two summers ago, I was in Mont Tremblant, Canada and I met this girl from Medford, Massachusetts. She was pretty cool and down to earth, so we talked and exchanged numbers. We hung out for a few days, but then I had to go back home. At this point in time, the girl seems harmless, but over the next few weeks, this girl became ENAMORED by me (touch chest for NLP) and was calling me non-stop. You can't blame the girl for being obsessed with me, but when the love isn't being exchanged in return, you should just call it quits and stalk another good looking guy.

HB: Haha, definitely.

Castig: Anyways, her stalking kept escalating in creepiness, and peaked about a month after I met her in Canada.

HB: What happened?

Castig: Okay, so she kept calling my cell phone one day and I was getting pissed off so I finally picked up. You're not going to believe what she says to me when I pick up.

HB: OMG, what'd she say?

Castig: She goes, "I'm coming over to your house" in a completely serious tone of voice. I just reply with, "Haha, okay." And, she says, "I'm coming over." I playfully go, "Can't wait to see you," then hang up.

HB: What? Did she really come over?

Castig: A few hours later, I hear my doorbell ring. I assume it's a friend of mine or somebody delivering a package. I walk to my front door and it's her! I am in utter disbelief, considering that this girl drove 3 hours to my house without me even approving of this.

HB: Holy shit!!!

Castig: I open this door and say, "You are sick in the head," but I'm too nice to not let you COME IN (NLP, double entendre).

HB: What the fuck happened after you let her come in?

Castig: It was just extremely awkward and she sensed I didn't want her in my house and she left after about an hour. I haven't spoken to her since...thankfully.

This raises her perceived value of me and it could lead into any of a number of topics of conversation.

Its an intresting story, however ima point out somethings. You put this story into a situational format, in a sense. When you setup things into a scenario type format you set yourself up for having real life issues/details keep you from achieving your desired effect.

Its not completely bad though, because of what you did you have preemptively setup answers to common questions you see yourself being asked. However like in my first post i say i assume alot of questions will be asked, and i have material to support my answers...but i dont plan the whole scenario on those questions.

Your story will need to be stand-alone...in other words it should be something you can tell simply by briding into it, or after a good relationship opener.

I hate to do it but i need to get a few key details to finish this story for you.

-whyd you goto canada, vacation? work?
-wered you meet the girl? bar? resort?
-are you in general looking for an exclusive relationship with 1 person? (i ask because we might be able to insert a statement in her to show thats not what you want...if thats the case)

So let me know these details and we will mold the story, other than that your storytelling isnt bad but you need to pepper in more emotions imo.

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Thanks for all the help, Ka.

-I went to Canada with my parents and brother during summer vacation (I was 15 at the time, going into sophomore year in HS)
-I met the girl at the pool in my resort
-Yes, I'm looking to get with 1 girl (maybe a fuck buddy type of thing)

Thanks again, bro.

Okie good heres my version:
"I love going on vacation, because people are more open to meeting others. A few summers back i went to Mont Tremblant, Canada. It was bueatiful and one day i went down to the resorts pool. I ended up meeting this girl there and we just started to vibe. We got along really well and it was no secret we liked each other.

We hung out a few days and got to know each other. She was cool and down to earth. So we exchanged numbers and went back home. At this point i figured we both understood that we didnt live close and we might just talk every now and again but, over the next few weeks we talked alot and she became enamored by me.

Now its not that i didnt like her, i was just being relistic. Id have dated her if we lived closer but she just started acting wierd. It was like she was obsessed with me. Now, you can't blame the girl for being obsessed with me, but when the love isn't being exchanged in return, you should just call it quits and stalk another good looking guy.

The worst part is, one day she called and told me she was comming over. I laff'd and played along figureing this was just sillyness. Well like 3 hours later my doorbell rings and i figure its my buddies comming by...i was wrong. She was standing at my front door, it was soo wierd. Im nice so i invited her in, after a while of akwardness she finally left. Was the wierdest thing but soo funny now that i look back."


Sorry was alot of material, its a bit long. You could even segment it like just talk about the point to were you exchanged numbers then stop...and people may ask you to continue, then you can give a sly look and start like, "Well this is were it goes wierd..."

You'll find yourself naturally segmenting material and poseing things in such a way to lead people into asking you for more. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesnt, the idea is to tell each segment in a stand alone format so that if they dont you can chop the thread and move on.

Hope this helps.

PS: If youd rather, you could even take everything you wrote, exclude the "her" parts and form that into a story yourself.

As always im helping people with these stories to help them see how to form them, not to give them what to say. Id prefer people take what i give them back and change it to fit you.

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Thanks, Ka. This looks a lot better than my version. I just have a few questions, though.

How come you left the part out that the girl drove 3 HOURS to my house without even asking if I was okay with this? That's basically the core part of the story; it's funny for my target to hear how far somebody would go to be with me. It also demonstrates higher value. Also, why would I think about stopping at the numbers part? I guess if the girl doesn't ask me to continue, I can still give her a sly look and proceed with the story; The interesting elements of the story take place after we exchanged #'s. Sorry, one last thing. How come it's bad to mention the word "her"?

Should I tell this story right after opening? My target is in the school play (she doesn't know that I know) and I was thinking about just telling her that I was thinking about going, even though I'm not really into that type of shit. She would be excited to talk about the play and acting and this would build a lot of rapport. I could also implement some C&F and say something like:

Castig: I'm sorry you act here at SHS (my high school).
HB: Huh?
Castig: The lack of testosterone must be so frustrating. But then again, the gay guys must be pretty excited to spend so much time, so close to each other.
HB: Hahaha

I don't want to offend her, though.

Great posting Ka, its been really helpful.

The biggest leak in my game I feel is my lack of DHVing. Although I really do feel that there is a good amount of stuff that I would consider higher value about myself, I have trouble portraying it through storytelling. I currently attend a big State school and a common question asked by girls is "whats your major?" I'm going to try and upgrade my response to this and possible other responses to where the conversation could steer from there. Here's what I can come up with so far. Comments by anyone would be appreciated.

Me: (After a C+F answer) Well actually when i first started I was an Accounting Major mainly because my family was obsessed with business. But then halfway through freshman year I switched to Psychology because I loved the intro class. Have you ever had that feeling where after being unsure, you suddenly knew exactly what you wanted to do? People have always told me that I'm good at making people feel better and teaching so I figured Psychology would be best for me. Plus surprisingly it actually helps with my job

At this point I expect them to ask about my "job" which is playing online poker. This is where I am extremely stuck. I never know how to DHV this if I should at all. I dont want to go into bragging mode but just for sake of getting it out of the way I've made quite a good amount playing the game. In fact there are so many similarities between the way I learned poker and the way I'm trying to learn PUA.
1. At first I was a losing poker player not knowing the better (full fledged AFC)
2. I realized there was strategy out there to learn (Found books)
3. The strategy was painful to use at first (the process I'm in now)
4. I now make moves that are purely instinct and most of the time correct (What I hope to accomplish)

Anyway I know I went on a tangent there but my main problem is how to DHV the whole poker thing w/o making it look like bragging. Again any help from anyone would be appreciated!

Well i didnt actually purposely leave it out, i was just trying to truncate it a bit and overlooked that part. Change it how you like, i was just setting it inot a story format.

You misunderstood, i didnt mean dunt use the word "her"...i meant in the original most you gave it to me in a dialouge (you said/she said 'her' format)

As far as when to tell the story, your gonna need to experiment and see how and when it works.

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I think your being hard on yourself, that story wasnt bad. Its a good combo of fact and emotion, its not overly long, and it bridges to another topic (a good bonus).

I see you following it up by simply saying your a poker player (say pro or semi pro if you feel). Then have a C&F answer for any questions. For instance they ask if you make any money, say "Na, who plays for money? I play for twinkies!"

If that dies down feel free to go into a thread about your ambitions...do you wana play poker for work in 15 years, be a psychologist, or something else? Come up with a story for that.

All in all i think your story telling skills are good, work on it a bit the only thing i can suggest (my issue with story telling too) is to insert a bit more humor.

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"Be the same, only better."

Is that C&F okay?

Try it, you wont know until you try it.

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"Be the same, only better."

amen to that. we can discuss all we want but we can't be sure till we practice over and over again. Something that I need to do badly. Until the next I sarge though I will discuss some more