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hey ka,

damn... i cant believe i've never thought about having DHV stories ready for the normal questions. great post here.

for the question: "what do you do/school"

i'm currently a mechanical engineering student at UW in seattle. i moved out here from virginia bech for the program. i love taking problems and breaking them down and solving them, but i dont think engineering is what i want to do when i graduate in december. i like taking chances, like moving out here 3000 miles from home, i'm trying to start a clothing company with my two brothers, one older one younger. i want to have a career in order to live the life i want, not live my career, you know? i'm passionate about travel, been to over 10 maybe 15 countries.

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Good info to work with, but you gotta tell it in a lineiar story..start before the answer to the question and end after.

My Version:
"I remember growing up and just having a nack for taking problems and breaking them down and solving them. I decided to major in mechanical engineering at UW in Seattle. The program there was soo great i moved 3000 miles there from Virginia Beach. Im gonna graduate in December but engineering isnt my ambition.

I love taking chances, im just too adventerous to be sitting in an office all day. So im planning on starting a Clothing company with my 2 brothers. I want to be my own boss, and have a career in order to live the life i want, not live my career. I just want to live life to the fullest, im passionate about traveling. Ive been to 10 maybe 15 countries but thats not enough."

See i started the story with you as a child, then to the current, then to the future. Just tell stories like that, spicing in emotions to the details and you'll have itresting stories in abundance. GL

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For anyone who asked me a question in the past, either via PM or in this thread, and has not heard from me, PM me asap and remind me. I just got back from Nashville a few days ago and am playing catch up with alot of stuff.

Thanks for understanding and hope this thread has helped you guys expand your library of DHv material.

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i disagree with you saying stuff about being kicked out. that is negative. the girl will think you are not good with loved ones or not a family man. leave that out completely. say instead you were determined and ambitious at 17 so you took off to start x, y, and z. if you were kicked out, then you are a bad person in their eyes (unless you have an amazing change story... but then again they are only asking what you do).

i also say keep it shorter. say i own my own business and go to school. from there they will ask what in or where and you can dhv from there. dont read them a novel. just answer their questions (which you lead them into). that is social dynamics.

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i disagree with you saying stuff about being kicked out. that is negative. the girl will think you are not good with loved ones or not a family man. leave that out completely. say instead you were determined and ambitious at 17 so you took off to start x, y, and z. if you were kicked out, then you are a bad person in their eyes (unless you have an amazing change story... but then again they are only asking what you do).

i also say keep it shorter. say i own my own business and go to school. from there they will ask what in or where and you can dhv from there. dont read them a novel. just answer their questions (which you lead them into). that is social dynamics.

good post!
The point is to completely congruent, sure i could tell them i own a buisness, left on my own valition at 17, and am the king of france...but sooner or later they will find out the truth.

I am COMPLETELY open with my self and with others. I have nuthing to hide, or as little as is possible. Some people feel this makes someone vulnerable, i feel it empowers me to be honest and straightforeward. No one can use my secrets against me because i have as few as possible.

Also, my story, not only being true, has many elements to it that are vague for a reason. Id say almost every single person i tell my story to asks why i got kicked out, twice. Lets surfice to say that the end result has to do with me telling them how much better i get along with my family when i dont live with them, how i have every reason to be mad at my parents but i love them and forgive them.

Now i think almost everyone, at some point in there life, can say they wished they lived alone or with friends instead of with thier family...it creates rapport, and im not lying. I establish myself as having reasonable family values and also come accross forgiving and easy to get along with.

Also as far as being negative, of course innitially it may come accross as such. I start off playing on the inate 'want to be your psychologist' mentality that alot of girls have (the 'i can change this guy' ideals). Then i change the mood to a more positive one.

I take them on an emotional ride from negative to positive and back as i see fit. It is essentially the concept of push pull being used under the surface.

Think of any movie or book that you were really into, that you felt happy after reading...did it stay happy the whole time or did the reading/movie take you on an emmotional rollercoaster ride?

Glad you like the thread, im happy people are taking to it.

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The point is to completely congruent, sure i could tell them i own a buisness, left on my own valition at 17, and am the king of france...but sooner or later they will find out the truth.
Wait. You're not the king of France? I've been bamboozled!

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thanks Ka

well, the absolute truth is, i wasn't working hard enough. i wouldnt attend classes and then i would just drop out halfway thru the year. i spent most of my time smoking up and popping pills. some good times sure, i guess i could demonstrate that i was too busy having fun. but no matter what spin i put on it i can't help but feel dropping out of 4 universities signifies a complete lack of drive, focus and ambition.. which surely is DLV...

and CHeesecake.. i don't know, never thought about it! they just want $tudents i guess.
So what are you doing currently...are you back in school or working or what? what do you want to do/achieve?

Just a tad bit more info and we can turn it into a DHV...the biggest part of it is beleiving that something good came of it.

I list the 3 BEST things that have happened to me as;

-Being kicked out of my house twice
-Loseing my license
-Discovering PUA

Not what you expected huh? So just becase it seems bad or negative doesnt mean you cant find the positive side of it. Answer my questions and we should have enough info to make you a DHV story.

Also id suggest as a side note to work on inner game and confidence.
There are some stories or happenings in your life that just aren't fit for DHV material... like when your parents took away your car because you couldn't quit wetting the bed... or dropping out of 4 U's.


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Hey billy i love how you completely neglect to quote the story that we did use, its ok though you do have a point.

Some things are left better unsaid, however you can only tell someone your a professional trouble maker so many times/ways til they dont trust you. You can DHV threw the roof about how you went sky diving with the hooters chicks, but when you dont have any pics or proof, and someone later puts you on the spot, what then?

Im not gonna point out that your being judgemental and superficial by saying that dropping out of a university 4 times isnt something to turn into a DHV. I guess your not one of those people who feels that what you take from a scenario is more important then the scenario itself.

Id be perfectly happy if you came here and judged the method for making DHV's that im shareing, but dont for a second try to belittle or judge the people sharing themselves here. If youd like to take up any other issues id apreciate you PM'in me or others, this is meant to be a positive post.

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Hey Ka,

Thanks in advance for the help, i just wanna mention a couple things. One is that i'm a high school junior at a really small private hs (350ppl)--which makes lying kinda hard, but these stories are true. The other thing is that i've had some trouble embedding preselection cuz i've never had a gf or anything.

Some of my hobbies are playing/composing music (piano, guitar, trumpet), rock climbing, snowboarding, and i used to windsurf.

My freshmen year I went snowboarding with my older sister and took a tumble on a black diamond, ended up breaking my clavicle (shoulder bone). Although at the time i didn't know it was broken so i still snowboarded down the rest of the slope to go see the resort doctor.

Last summer i took a trip with my mom to China and Taiwan and I have a few stories. One is that we went to see this emperor's spa thing, its a touristy old spa, but still functional. Anyway i was asked to go in naked with a bunch of her friends all 30-40yo chinese men, needless to say i didn't end up going, but it was a little nerve-racking.

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I need help with my story

Mascot
-Volunteered as a mascot
-Did not know there was gonna be a cheer competition
-Ate a lot of food
-Took pictures and entertained people
-During summer, so it was frickin hot

Dance
-Had a dance (Hip-Hop) performance in front of about 300 people
-I choreographed and made the music mix
-During my friends birthday
-3/4 of the song I forgot the moves - so I ended up freestyling and kissing the birthday girls hand (I was performing in front of her with a couple of people, while she was sitted on this elegant looking chair) - and the song ends there
-Was Perspiring like a pig at the very end

Saved a kids life (Is this too long? What elements am I missing?)
I was walking to the bus stop. And on my way, I saw this kid, he was probably around 5 years of age or maybe younger, on his bike and he was coming down hill really fast. I paid no attention to it but I heard this girl yelling and shouting, telling him to stop. The kid was not stopping though, I think he froze, and he was just looking straight at the moving traffic. I had to do something. All this options on how to save him started popping out of my head. Should I blocked the bike using my body, but thats gonna hurt and I didn't want to get my new kicks dirty. Anyways, when he arrived exactly on the sidewalk in an almost swing like motion I grabbed his shirt and arm. and Crash!! His bike ended up in the middle of the traffic, good thing the drivers reacted quickly and stopped their cars because he had a really nice bike. It looked expensive. So yeah, the kid was a lil bruised up and he was crying but he was fine. The girl that was shouting earlier was his sister and she thanked me and her dad came after, and he was grateful as well. The ending part was probably the most difficult part for me. I didn't know what to say, so I was like CHYEA!, and I walked away. Till this day it still bothers me, I should have came up with a cooler line than that, so stupid.

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Hey Ka,

Thanks in advance for the help, i just wanna mention a couple things. One is that i'm a high school junior at a really small private hs (350ppl)--which makes lying kinda hard, but these stories are true. The other thing is that i've had some trouble embedding preselection cuz i've never had a gf or anything.
Pinderby, i can see how you may perceive this as an issue, what i see is less peoples mentalities you need to change. Preselection is really an illusion, unless you have someone tape you having sex. Build up a good set of pivots, or just some female friends...and the preselection switch will get flipped. The nice thing about a small calls size is that positive news will spread fast.
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Some of my hobbies are playing/composing music (piano, guitar, trumpet), rock climbing, snowboarding, and i used to windsurf.
These are all excellent hobbies, they are spread between intellectual endevours and physically challengeing outtings. Im sure you have a ton of stories that you dunt even think of til it comes up in convo.
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My freshmen year I went snowboarding with my older sister and took a tumble on a black diamond, ended up breaking my clavicle (shoulder bone). Although at the time i didn't know it was broken so i still snowboarded down the rest of the slope to go see the resort doctor.
I see this as being the better of the two. Ill work with this one and you can apply story telling skills to your other stories and help yourself mold them into DHV stories.

Also keep in mind that you can start the story anyway you like...ask them if they have ever been snowboarding, ask if they like outdoor sports, or simply bridge from some unrelated story/convo by using "that reminds me.." or "Wow i just remembered something.."

My version:
"I love outdoor sports, my freshamn year i went snowboarding with my sister and some friends. We were having a great time, until we decided to try a black diamond. I take a spill and break my shoulder bone. The funny part is it hurt, i mean it really hurt...but i never thought it was broken. So we kept snowboarding the rest of the day just having a blast. At the end i went to the doc and they told me it was broken. Even though i wiped out and got hurt, i still snowboard, its just to much of a thrill to give up."

The nice thing about stories like this based on a activity is you can use them to time bridge. The target has never went snowboarding, you say "Great then ima take you sometime, but not on the black diamond of course."

Then you can take it further by talking about how much fun it will be...

When you tell a story like this, many people tend to tell events like x happened then y, then z...It always makes it more intresting to describe how you felt. Im sure you could elaborate on the story i made and incorporate you own descriptives into it.

Hope this helps.

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Saved a kids life (Is this too long? What elements am I missing?)
I was walking to the bus stop. And on my way, I saw this kid, he was probably around 5 years of age or maybe younger, on his bike and he was coming down hill really fast. I paid no attention to it but I heard this girl yelling and shouting, telling him to stop. The kid was not stopping though, I think he froze, and he was just looking straight at the moving traffic. I had to do something. All this options on how to save him started popping out of my head. Should I blocked the bike using my body, but thats gonna hurt and I didn't want to get my new kicks dirty. Anyways, when he arrived exactly on the sidewalk in an almost swing like motion I grabbed his shirt and arm. and Crash!! His bike ended up in the middle of the traffic, good thing the drivers reacted quickly and stopped their cars because he had a really nice bike. It looked expensive. So yeah, the kid was a lil bruised up and he was crying but he was fine. The girl that was shouting earlier was his sister and she thanked me and her dad came after, and he was grateful as well. The ending part was probably the most difficult part for me. I didn't know what to say, so I was like CHYEA!, and I walked away. Till this day it still bothers me, I should have came up with a cooler line than that, so stupid.
No that was actually done perfectly as far as i can tell. It was intresting for me to read. Its humorus, shows you have a 'soft side', etc. I dont think its too long. You did an excellent job spicying in emotional states in there. If you apply this type of story telling framework to your other stories you dunt need my help. Just make sure in the future if you write it to someone to use paragraphs, and if your telling it make sure to emote while you tell it.

If your up for it, take the other 2 stories you wanted help with and give them a try yourself and repost them. If they need any help ill help, if not it may make a great example to others on how you take basic facts and apply story telling skills to them.

Hope this helps.

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Thanks a lot for the feedback Ka. I will finish the other stories, and revised the last one. Thanks again, I am very grateful.

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Hey Ka,

First of all, thanks for doing this. It's really appreciated. Even though it's my first post on here, I've been reading the board for a few days, and I can really see the potential of this community. Because of considerate people like you, I think I can really bring my game a step forward. I wanted to post in here first because I really liked the topic, and it concerns me on a personal level.

My stories go like this:

-I LOVE music, especially heavy metal. What I listen to is not limited to that, but I really enjoy it. However, when girls (or guys) ask me what stuff I am into, and I say metal, their interest in me usually decreases (because of the usual stereotypes, etc.) or they say "you're lying" because I don't really sport the metal dresscode. So when I get asked that question, I usually just say "lots of stuff" (which boring answer IMO). Do you have ideas on how I could turn that into an interesting story/answer?

-Also, I am a full-time university student, but work in a liquor story part-time. I don't enjoy the job that much, but it pays well here in Quebec because it is unionized (??). So when I tell them what I do, the answer is usually "oh you must be rich!" or "this is the dreamjob!". It is true that it's a great job for a student, but I don't really like to brag about it that much. Plus, I don't particularly like what I do so I usually keep things short. Your help on this would be appreciated.

As I'm writing this, I realize that when I get asked basic questions, my answers are pretty short&basic as I am not really talkative. Do you have any general tips on how to elaborate simple answers? Do you have all your answers pre-elaborated?

Thanks in advance for your time!

Oh, and sorry for the improper introduction.


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Hey Ka,

First of all, thanks for doing this. It's really appreciated. Even though it's my first post on here, I've been reading the board for a few days, and I can really see the potential of this community. Because of considerate people like you, I think I can really bring my game a step forward. I wanted to post in here first because I really liked the topic, and it concerns me on a personal level.

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As I'm writing this, I realize that when I get asked basic questions, my answers are pretty short&basic as I am not really talkative. Do you have any general tips on how to elaborate simple answers? Do you have all your answers pre-elaborated?

Thanks in advance for your time!

Oh, and sorry for the improper introduction.
First off welcome to the forums LeJoueur. Im glad that you found reading this topic insigthful.

First ima answer your question about basic questions you get asked.

The idea here is not memorization or learning what to say given a specific question. Instead the concept is essentially just story telling. Its learning how to take all your memories, thoughts and ideas and apply them to conversations through storytelling.

So when your asked a basic question, or someone does something and it sparks a memory in you, or someone tells you a story....you can communicate to them your thoughts, feelings and experience on the subject or on a subject that you have been reminded of.

Its instantaneous, improv, with some of the more common questions becomming routines. We all have routines, you already identified yours by saying that when your asked these questions your typically short with people. You pointed out that over time you learned it was easier, socially speaking, to claim all music as oppossed to what you really want to say. This is the routine you have developed, without planning to, for that question.

The plan here is to take some of the basic, common questions or memories that you often find yourself conveying or wanting to convey to people, and transform them into positive intresting stories.

So onto stories..i picked the music one as it seems to be the one out of the 2 that you need the most help with. If youd like you can take the other, rewrite it, and repost it here and ill let you know if your getting the idea, perfected the idea, or if your clueless :P
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-I LOVE music, especially heavy metal. What I listen to is not limited to that, but I really enjoy it. However, when girls (or guys) ask me what stuff I am into, and I say metal, their interest in me usually decreases (because of the usual stereotypes, etc.) or they say "you're lying" because I don't really sport the metal dresscode. So when I get asked that question, I usually just say "lots of stuff" (which boring answer IMO). Do you have ideas on how I could turn that into an interesting story/answer?
First of all i really dig how you start this, im a big fan of answering time wise, before the question and then progressivly answering past the question, but with a question like this time is meaningless. So you started with a strong emotion.

Heres my answer:
"Ive always LOVED music. It expresses so much from love to pain to friendship....I listen to a little bit of everything, but what really apeals to me, for some reason, is Heavy Metal. It pumps me up and at the same time calms me down. It doesnt matter if im in a funk or feeling just awsome...it always helps me center myself. Ill go from listening to some Metal to pop and my friends get all confused, but they just dont feel the same way about music as i do."

Mind you itd be nice to change this up a bit..i had to fabricate some feelings and ideas since you didnt share much. Maybe spice in what you listened to as a kid, or why you like Metal so much.

Since this has happened before with my responses to others maybe sometimes ill spice in a story of my own. Alot of the times i can relate to peoples story because it evokes a memory or feeling in me. Its like with some of these stories had i been sitting with some of you guys at a bar we'd spend the whole night talking.

So heres my story...

ME: "I cant beleive it, you reminded me of how i got into music, because i love it too. I remember going to a record store...yea viynal records and casettes imagine that, with my father. He introduced me to the first tape i ever owned, which was The Monkeys. I used to play it all the time just danceing and singing along.

Well i grew up and my taste in music went from that to rap and hip-hop in high school to what it is today. I love all kinds of music but some of my favorite stuff is rock or alternative. A few of my favorite artists are Linkin Park, Coheed & Cambria, and Red Hot Chilli Peppers.

There is just something soo suething listening to the music i like for me, its like no matter what, it always shoots me through the clouds, above my problems. If im in a good mood it helps pump me up and just fills me with energy."

Now mine was a bit long, but its all true....yes i remember the first "record" i ever got. Not that you know of it, but i even remember the exact location in my old neighborhood even though i dunt remember the name of the store...but i know its not thier anymore.

This is the kind of effect someones story should have on you...and the effect good story telling will have on others. We could even branch off now..talk about the concerts we've been to, what our friends like or how they dunt like the same stuff etc.


So in ending ill say to remember that no matter what your response, regardless of peoples typical reactions to it...keep in mind that its who you are, its a good and positive part of you. Be enthusiastic, emote with facial expressions and body language, and make sure your tone matches the above. If your congruent in this sence people will go with it and accept it.

We cant all have the same taste in music, the world would be a dull and boring place if we all did.

Hope this helps.

PS: stop changing your name soo much, pick one, stay with it im not gonna go back and edit the names :P

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