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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 4:52 pm 
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I have a "friend" (not actually a fan of each other but we both mask it to not seem pathetic), not the wingman type but more the competitive/manipulative type. It is not an option to stop being friends with him, as he is close within my friend circle and that cannot be changed. When im at the stage of building attraction with females, and generally in most other cases, he will constantly demonstrate my lower value almost routinely. This can be in the form of AMOGing, or pointing out my flaws in a seemingly friendly way (destroyers) etc.

In a lot of cases over the past few years, he has extracted females from me.

What are your guys views on what my mentality about this should be, and how to routinely deal with it?


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 12:57 pm 
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Don't take him out when you sarge. He's hurting your progress.

If you must, the way to deal with AMOGs is to make them look like they are trying way too hard. It's their weakness because most really don't know when to stop and they will end up looking foolish.

If the DLVs can't be avoided, then you have no choice but to improve yourself to the point where any DLV is minor compared to how much other awesome stuff you do.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 2:16 pm 
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cheers, alot of useful things you just pointed out. exactly the response i was looking for!


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 9:30 am 
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Say to him:
You must really like me to pay that much attention to me...
Then one of these:
Sorry though you're not my type
If you ask nicely I'll let you buy me dinner
I'm only into blondes/brunettes/redheads/Asians/whatever the girl is
ect...


Or you can just call him out on it
You: It's funny, John here has low self esteem so he has to call out other peoples flaws to make himself feel better.
John: I have plenty of self esteem (insert insult here)
You: Good attitude man, fake it till you make it!

Or she may respond

HB: You've been making fun of me all night do you have low self esteem?
You: Difference is I was teasing you in a flirty way. I sure hope he isn't flirting with me. I wouldn't blame him though.

Immediately after any of those situations change the topic. If he says anything else just don't even acknowledge it and keep going.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 7:17 pm 
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this guy doesn't sound like much of a friend,

one way to deal with this sort of thing is don't routinely hang out with ''friends'' that are not actually your friends, and if that leaves you SOL then get out there and meet more people who's company you enjoy, that you have things in common with, when you are first meeting people, guys or girls, make sure you get to know them to see if you actually like them and don't hang out or waste time trying to hang out with people that suck, pay attention to what kind of person they are (this includes hot girls that you have no chemistry with, can always lead to something superficial, but eventually the superficial grows old)

when you are in situations around people that are hostile towards you or someone who feels insecure around you, just ignore them, shrug it off, no need to do anything to them or even pay attention to them or talk to them, if they are being blatantly malicious constantly just address them and question them on their behavior,

pull them aside in private, and just be honest with them that what they are doing is bothering you, if it continues on and on, you can just make a scene about it to discourage it happening in the future, but going down that road can just escalate into more and more abrasive behavior with both of you having a pissing contest until one backs down or you end up fighting

other then that, just knowing there are tons of girls out there, if you are actually regularly going out and meeting new girls, then you should have enough contacts that you have no need to compete with anyone for one specific random girl, if you are out at a bar or a party or what ever, just ignore his comments and focus on the girls you like instead of him, make it immediately clear what your intentions are to the girls you you are interested in (that you are attracted to them) and start finding out the logistics and if the girl is ignoring you and paying attention to him, who cares, just let him talk with her and straight let him have her, if he's butting in to your convos or being annoying or what ever, be straight honest with him that you are interested in the girl and that you didn't know he was interested and if he likes her you can back off

if he is interested then go socialize with some other girl and run your game, and if he's not then there you go, keep talking to the girl and he has no reason to cockblock anymore

it's unlikely he's going to just follow you around all night trying to cockblock you and once he does what ever he's trying to do, just go back to the girl if you want and try to sleep with her or what ever you were trying to do, 9.9/10 times the guy trying to cockblock you is going to not try to do anything except have an awkward to short convo with the girl you are interested in and eventually just blow himself out hoping she will just jump on his dick, just do your best to get to know the girls you are interested in and escalate until you get blown out or logistics become an issue


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 10:00 pm 
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Wow, I've logged back on to find a shit load of replies and advice! Thanks a lot to all of you and I will post back any changes I've noticed :mrgreen:


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I have a "friend" (not actually a fan of each other but we both mask it to not seem pathetic), not the wingman type but more the competitive/manipulative type. It is not an option to stop being friends with him, as he is close within my friend circle and that cannot be changed. When im at the stage of building attraction with females, and generally in most other cases, he will constantly demonstrate my lower value almost routinely. This can be in the form of AMOGing, or pointing out my flaws in a seemingly friendly way (destroyers) etc.

In a lot of cases over the past few years, he has extracted females from me.

What are your guys views on what my mentality about this should be, and how to routinely deal with it?
I get what you mean. I have such a so-called friend whom I can't just stop being friends with because of social circle situations and family actually.

He used to fuck up my sets all the time by DLV'ing me to the girls. It had me so pissed that I had to write a blog post about him few years ago.

Simple solution; just don't game around him! That's what I did.

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