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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 2:37 pm 
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hi guys,
New years eve i went out and met some guys on the street ! We decided to find a club and so we did! We got in, went to the bar to have drinks and chill for a while! I start to map the room and analise the sets! I didnt even realised that there were 2 hB just by my side! one of them asked me if a had fire!
me" no! but if you give me 2 cigarettes i can find a lighter"
she gives me the cigaretes i ask someone for fire and me, one of the guys and the girls start talking! By that point im being C/F, negging them, touching her from time to time, and everything seems to be going right! then i say" Im gonna have another tequila"
Hb " yeah! me too"
me " ok! lets make a deal! I lick the salt from your hand and drink your tequila, and you lick the salt from my hand and drink mine"
hb " ok "
So we do it! she laughts and im thinking " shes got no chance! shes already mine and doesn't know it"
Than the other guy says" let's dance" and the girls are like " yeah, lets dance"
We go to the dance floor, and i know im good at dancing, and sudenlly my target goes " Look is whoever up stairs , lets go say hi! Nice meeting you guys!" and leaves!

I've been over this scenario a milion times in my head and couldnt find out what i did wrong!

Hope one of you can!

thanks guys!


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 2:56 pm 
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Well first off, I want to say that it sounded like you were doing well with your target. I know you didn't intend for this but one thing I saw is you didn't follow the 3-second rule and go straight in to build social proof. The other thing I don't see you talking about is engaging the obstacles. You mention that you negged and stuff. The other thing I see is that you possibly returned the IOIs to past. Lastly, she could have just been drunk.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 3:08 pm 
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yeah i didnt realy worked her friend very much i was more focused on her!! but she seemed intretended by te guy thats was with me!

What do you mean by return the iois too fast?

My biggest problem is that in my old country ( Brazil ) i only used bodylanguage, eye contact and it worked really well! most of the time i didnt even said a word! Now, here , not only this doesn't work and i have to talk and " work my art" but i have to do it in french! lol So , just now im realizing all the diferent fases and sometimes i m afraid im skiping them as you said


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 3:11 pm 
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IOIs are Indicators of Interest. You can do a forum search to get a complete list of them. But they are non-verbal statements or body language that are signs that she is interested in you. Not until you receive about three of these should you start to return them. Until then you keep your body angled away from her showing disinterest. Then when you want reward her for good behaviour with more eye contact, turning your body towards hers, etc.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 3:14 pm 
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Another bad thing could have been your energy level. Seems like they were pretty pumped up (also drunk) so if your energy level and enthusiasm was slightly lower then theirs, you probably became a bit boring to them so they left.

Also, that teqiula scene, although it seems to you you delivered it perfectly, seems to me you talked a bit to much:
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me " ok! lets make a deal! I lick the salt from your hand and drink your tequila, and you lick the salt from my hand and drink mine"
You could do it in more dominant, Alpha way, like puting the salt on your hand and just puting your hand in front of her lips, also eye contacting her and playfully smiling. Then taking her hand, puting salt on it, holding it (kino) and licking it from her hand (more sexual kino). This game could also continue by licking salt from her breast in a later stage.

But you did OK, and you also posted it here, you are now receiving some feedback from jsmooth and me and next time you will perform much better. Thats nice path to mastery! :wink:

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 1:34 pm 
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Next time this sort of interruption happens, grab her hand (gently), and point to your chest with your other hand saying "The show's over here, knucklehead."

Then either go into a short DHV (depending on the situation) OR say "Introduce me to your friend, that's the polite thing to do."

Then, she will take you with her and you can go from the previous 2-set on the dance floor to a new 3-set with the other friend.

By the way, regardless of whether the new person is male or female, game and befriend them. You will build social proof.


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