Gay CockBlocker Disarms?



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:58 pm 
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Had an encounter with one of these last night, any one have any idea how I can disarm a gay cock blocker.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 1:50 am 
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Talk to him. if He is blocking you from getting your HB then you have to engage him in the conversation. Once you get on friendly terms with him he will be less likely to cock block you. just don't get to friendly. lol you don't want to give him the wrong idea.


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Dr Paul recommends recognizing the CBer as the guardian of the group. It was most likely intended as a female CBing a male, but it would probably work in this sense. He talks about it here:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLmsjYV8isg[/youtube]

I wouldn't worry about talking to the gay guy too much and giving him the wrong idea. He knows he is gay, and he knows you are hitting on the women because you are straight. Playing to the stereotype is the quickest way to lose his respect, as well as the woman you are trying to attract.

She has him around in this environment for a reason, and it is to defend her/screen applicants, not for him to pick up the guys who try to do so. If there's one thing all women inherently hate more than anything else in the world, it is competition for their men. If he picked up a guy who was hitting on her, it would place her on a lower step of the social ladder and consequently jeopardize their entire relationship, because he would be "hotter" than she was to the available males.


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You should never ever be cockblocked by a homosexual guy. I refer to them as "eunuchs". In these situations, you MUST Amog. If you got amogged by a faggot, that means you're probably a faggot yourself and had no chance in the first place. I say this because I game in very highly densely gay populated areas, mostly Hell's Kitchen and East Village. When approaching a mixed set, I almost always try to make sure the guy's some kinda faggot.

You can present eye contact differently. When eye contacting the girl, make sure it says, "Im gonna fuck you." But when making eye contact with the guy, make sure you're mentally beating your chest at him.

In my opinion, all homosexual men are beta males and that is why they're evolutionarily unable/unwilling to reproduce.

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how exactly were you cockblocked?

depending on the situation there is alot you can do when people are giving you trouble, and it really depends on how you are being treated,

but as a general rule, just don't react, if seriously put on the spot, just dis-qualify social constraints placed on you and re-frame

if the person is friendly, you might as well just be friendly back and get some rapport with them, bring some value and they will probably help guide your cock rather then block it

if you have someone who is really agressive and being negative, the easiest way to deal with them, is just get them reacting to you (if they are agressive they probably already are), then just don't fight back, instead place some social constraints on them, and don't argue or anything, just start ignoring them, every now and then give them a little to hold onto while dismissing their frame, let them just try harder and harder until it is obvious that they are fighting a losing battle cause you don't care, eventually they just start to look awkward as long as you hold your frame strong and dissmiss their's and ignore, and really that comes down to emotional state control, as well as self confidence

some lines to help you express this if you don't get the idea of how to dismiss a his/her frame are things like,

''ya... cool man''
''that's great''
''good stuff''
''haha ok?''

basically you just aknowledge what they say, then sort of just ignore them right after and lead into something elese, with someone else in the group, the more they try to get at you, the more they look socially retarded, as long as you are not being rude and not reacting, it just makes them seem like they are in social violation, even if the group is reacting to them at first because they have more precieved value to begin with, the more you don't react to them, and the more they react to you, the more they lose any social status within the group

a cool little excersise you can do to help practise frame control while avoiding qualifying yourself to social constraints was named by my buddy, ''the question game'', basically you just answer questions, with questions, and it is all along who is getting the answers they want, and getting used to just leading on autopilot setting new frames you want, while not reacting to negative frames you don't want to fall under, essentially keeping the tension off of yourself, and placing it on the other person so they are on the spot to qualify themselves, rather then you

example,

guy1 ''why are you so gay?''
guy2 ''what, do you not like gay people?''
guy1 ''why would you think that?''
guy2 ''are you saying you know what i'm thinking?''
guy1 ''why can't we just get along, lol?'
guy2 ''are you just going to answer everything I ask with a question? just answer me''
guy1 ''who the hell do you think you are? do I have to answer every little question you ask?''

obviously frame control goes much deeper then this, but it is a fun little game and you can go into auto pilot eventually in tight situations and regain a frame and start leading when you get good at this

you can also practise trying to stay in control on your emotional state during tough times while dealing with dis-respect, by just agreeing with the person, as well as re-frameing what they are saying, and then after it has been re-framed, cut the thread and lead into a new one so it will lower their value to continue on the old thread

amog ''oh look this gay kid is trying to pick you up wendy''
pua ''ya look wendy, this sexy gay man came over here to hit on you, *wink at the guy*, how do you guys know each other?''

if a guy reverts back to an old thread, see the first part (''ya.... cool man'' *back to wendy and ignore*)

my buddy also uses a trick similar to agreeing and blowing what they say out of context, except for he adds a little twist, instead of agreeing, he just makes an annoying voice, mymics what they say and makes himself sound retarded, then he cuts the thread and starts a new one,

amog, ''lol, look at this ugly kid trying to pick wendy up''
pua, ''lolol, look aaa dis ugg buu buu buu trying taaoo peek windy urp, what a homo hey?'' *points at amog while looking at wendy making a stupid voice*

^ and seriously this can be used for hours and is incredibly annoying

the third little tidbit, is calling people out without reacting to their frames, this one tends to have the most potiential to start a pissing contest, but can make people feel very insecure if you yourself are a very confident secure person

amog, ''listen, this girl is not going to fuck you''
pua, ''oh look, it's little johnny and he is telling me not to talk to his best friend''
amog, ''listen who do you... blah blah blah''
pua, ''lol, calm down stud, you want this girl I understand...'' *ignore and talk to girl*

pua, ''wow, way to make things awkward'' *ignore and talk to girl*

pretty much, your best friend in these situations, is holding congruence to your frame, and not reacting more then anything, you don't even have to address amogs, but it might help you to just make some friends instead of enemies, if they don't feel like you are actually trying to get anything, but rather just bringing value to the group, you will rarely if ever get cockblocked in and agressive dis-respectful manner, a group of girls might test you to begin with and if you are too upfront right away might protect wendy's little vagina, but if you can just lead well and not react you will have a pretty good shot of showing them some value and hooking the whole set, that can give you time to either win the girl over, or infleunce the group enough so that they don't cockblock you, and people tend to leave you be when you ignore them, especially if they are violating socially as most people are pretty sensative to social value shifts and approval (although some couldn't give a fuck less


now, using social contraints to steal the frame and gain compliance,

setting down a constraint, forces the person that is trying to socially lead to either re-frame and find away around the contraint, or just bust through the constraint, if they bust through the constraint it will put a frame over what they are doing,

for example, you are talking to a girl for about 10 min, you have her laughing and touching you, she is enjoying her time, then all of a sudden some guy comes up and just starts trying to be rude for no reason, now one of the easiest things to do first, is test how much rapport you have in comparison to the guy, so you know what sort of constraints to set, so naturally one thing you can do, is just ask the girl,

do you know this guy?
or you can just girl code her with your eyes to see how she feels about him,

if she has rapport with him, she will not react negatively towards him after being coded, and if you say do you know this guy? and she says yes, you have verbal confirmation

so contraints can be set in so many ways to lead a frame, you can use body language to just shut him out and say goodbye, physically controlling the frame, or you can start putting a frame on actions that you do/don't want to see with constraints, but it is always easiest to use the group/target to your advantage when setting these contraints up, if it is a group effort it is more likely to be conformed with, speak through the target, get the target to blow the person out of set, or use the tactics above to lead until the person gets bored and leaves themselves

''haha, this guy is cool, I like him, well nice to meet you man, we'll talk to you later'' *ignore then shut him out with body language*

''hey wendy, introduce me to your friend, it's the polite thing to do''
(if he doesn't introduce himself after wendy goes for it, just to tool you, then he lowers his value within the group)
''hey man, tell us some stories about (current thread), it would be rude not to''
''you would have to be some sort of loser to not...''
''only someone with a small dick would...''

you can get really creative with setting down constraints for people to walk into they don't have to be as mean spirited as some of the ones above, but that should give you an idea,

basically, from the outer point of view, holding a frame will come down to, not qualifying into another persons frame, but rather dis-qualifying their frame, and re-framing, as long as you stay positive and don't react, eventually the other person will start reacting and look bad and try hard, you just have to be more certain of yourself and not react when re-framing and dis-qualifying

if you are having trouble getting guys to react to your frame, I have always found guys tend to react heavily and negatively to frames involving them being gay the most, but be careful with all the negative validation, it can easily lead to fights and guys seriously getting offended and feeling dis-respected, calibration to the situation is key, and it is always easier to ignore someone and just not react staying friendly and positive, then it is to get into some pointless pissing contest of egos just to tool some guy off and feel like some big tough guy, often the girls you are going after you don't even know, you don't have to dominate every group of people, sometimes the best coarse of action is to just let it go and stop feeling the need to be better then someone, you don't have to prove anything, if you are more interested in the obsticles then the target, you are probably reacting emotionally to them anyways and you will lose momentum as a result and end up in a negative anti-social mood, not only that but a cockblock can just as easily be more sure of himself and start ignoring you when you are reacting, as you can do it to him, stronger frame absorbs the weaker frame, keep your cool, hold a strong frame, you don't have to tool people to be respected and valued

thinking you have to be top dog, alpha number one shit talker in every situation all the time is fairly insecure

GOOD LUCK


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