ya if you neg, it must be done after you've built comfort. usually any kind of opener will work with these girls, because they dont like confrentation, they wont shoot you down. then just go straight to comfort builing, and do a lot of that. the open and the close are going to be minimal with these gilrs, its all about them being comfortable in your presence. be funny, be kind and polite. they'll fall into your hands.
good luck,
PB
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