At loud partys, and other shit where the music is so loud that you can hardly hear what your friend's screaming in your ear, you can't do those big routines, simply because she hears only the first and last words..

I often use short, Situational openers, because they're a lot easyer to understand without hearing the whole sentence, and as follow up mostly random shit.

But what material do you guys use in those situations? And more important for me; where do you guys follow up with?


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Eye contact. It says far much more than any words. Get the eye contact, don't break it. Keep it. Approach, smile. Shake their hand. They'll probably come and talk in to your ear first. And then try and go somewhere quiet so you can talk.

But saying that you can get a kiss close without saying much, just get close, build up kino get the seductive eye contact going on.

Yeah I know, but you need to have a small chit-chat to maken't things awkward, and some good subjects to talk about in the back of your head for when you need it are pretty useful..

IMO loud clubs ruin the whole PUA logistics..

I went to a club for sarging couple of weeks ago, and I opened only one set, in a small smoking area of the club, cause the whole club was so fucking loud that it was pretty useless to talk..

this is something that's been in my mind for a while..

Yeah I think that you shouldn't even try it, only if theres a less-loud smoking area you can try havin' a convo, instead of that you should do some 'dance game'. The fucked up thing about dance game, is that the convo counts less (or just not) so you should do it all by being confident&taking the lead..

in terms of clubs, I think it's useless to try, unless like mentioned before, you go for just dance game.

parties are a bti different, depending on the party it could be easier or harder. I went to one once where there was a room with a dj and people dancing. it was pretty easy to go up to a girl and dance and within minutes we were making out. I guess it depends on the party, cuz someties the girls are just lookign to hookup.

if you're not so fortunate, just try to make full use of eye contact and kino, when you talk to her gently pull her close and talk into her ear. when you talk let your lips touch her ear softly (if this kind of kino is appropriate) just try to dance, relax, and have fun, and if you feel the time is right, ask a girl if she wants to find someplace quieter to go.