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PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 7:18 pm 
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Hey guys, so i was in set the other day, i'd isolated done some kino and the girl was pretty comfortable with me. I had attraction, I had comfort, but I freezed up. I knew that if I went for the K-close that it would work, but I still had last minute resitance, I had no Kiss close routines to use.

Im a lil new to pua, so it would be great if this post could be like a thread to reference for Kiss closing. So guys, what are your best Kiss close routines?

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 8:09 pm 
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You don't need routines to get a kiss. In fact using a routine will put girls off a lot of the time and make it awkward. Even if they do want to kiss you as soon as you ask them or suggest kissing them they will most of the time say no. Don't mention kissing her at all. Here's what I do:

- Strong eye contact
- Be quiet, slow your speech down
- Move closer

If she moves her head back away from yours obviously don't go for the kiss, just go back to talking about whatever you were talking about and pretend you didn't even do anything. If she doesn't move backwards and she lets your faces get close she wants to kiss you, go for it.

See how this way is better already? She doesn't even have a chance to reject you like she would if you say it out loud, you can just both pretend nothing has happened, she'll probably not even know you were trying anyway.


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before u try to kiss her, first go kino and make an physical relation. That way you can't have wired moments after kissing. Try to crate a moment that it leads to kiss.
for exemple take her hand for a few seconds, lightly tuching her until she tuch you back.
If she takes the hand quickly back, than it's not the moment for kiss(but it's not like a kiss reject, you can allways try this again), if she tuch you back, procced to another physical moment.
Take her heands, put them on your sholder and ask her how good kisse is she.
If she says she don't know you say let's find out
If she says very good or whatever, kiss her and say that is worst than what she says but u give her another chance.
or

Reach over and touch her hair while we're talking and make a
comment about it. I'll say "Your hair looks so soft" and just touch the tips of
it.If she smiles and appears to like what she's hearing, I then reach back
over and start stroking it again while talking to her. If she likes this, I know
that she would be receptive to a kiss.- DavidDeAngelo
I also recomand that after you used daviddeangelo tip you can use this story


1. I tell her that she smells good and ask what she is wearing. Then I lean in, brush her hair aside, and sniff her slowly, moving up from the shoulder to the ear. "Mmmm, that smells good. People don't pay enough attention to smell. But you'll notice how animals, before they mate, will always smell each other. Evolution has hard-wired us to respond to certain things. You are wired to respond when someone smells you."
2. "It's like when someone pulls the back of your hair. You'll notice how lions, when they mate, always bite and tug at the end of each other's mane, right here." (Since I'm shaved bald, I'll add here, "This is what I miss the most about not having hair"; if you have hair, say, "This is one of my favorite things".) Then I run my hand up the back of her neck and grab a fistful of hair at the roots and pull it, downwards. She says "Mmmm..." And I say "see."
3. Then I talk about how "No one knows this, but the most sensitive places on the body are places that are usually hidden from contact with the air, like the back of the elbow (touching it) and knee (touching it). Any place where your body bends, twists, or folds, there are millions of sensitive little nerve endings that release endorphins. Then I take her arm, bend it a little, and erotically bite the area on the opposite side of the elbow (that crease where it bends). She usually gets the chills, and I have her ratify how good it feels.
[Note for the less experienced: If you don't know how to erotically bite a girl, learn before you do this. You want to take a big chunk of skin -- not a little pinch! â€" and slowly and firmly slide your teeth together until they meet and release the skin. You may want to practice on your own elbow first.]
4. After, I say, "But do you know what the best thing in the world is?...A bite...right...here." And I point to the side of my neck. (Every now and then, I'll add, that "this has to do with the fact that it is where the jugular vein is most exposed, and since most sexual fantasies have to do with submission and vulnerability, it sends all the fantasy signals flying.") Then I'll expose my neck and say, "Bite me right here" as if I expect her to do it. Fifty percent of the time she will. If she doesn't, I just turn away calmly (punish), wait a few seconds, and then turn back and repeat, "Bite me right here." Usually she will.
5. Half the time, her bite is lame. If so, I correct her and say, "That's not how you bite. Come here." Then I give her a good bite on the neck and instruct her to "try again." This time, she ALWAYS does a great job.
6. Now you look her in the eye, smile mischievously/approvingly, and say, very slowly, "not bad." Then glance down at her mouth, back up at her eyes, and...yes...finally...you...may...if you want...and if she's ready...um...kiss!
Short Version: smell, grab hair, touch elbow, touch back of knee, bite elbow, bite my neck, bite her neck, triangular gazing, kiss.

think i found it someware on this forum.. Srry i don;t remember the autor name.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 8:26 pm 
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before u try to kiss her, first go kino and make an physical relation. That way you can't have wired moments after kissing. Try to crate a moment that it leads to kiss.
for exemple take her hand for a few seconds, lightly tuching her until she tuch you back.
If she takes the hand quickly back, than it's not the moment for kiss(but it's not like a kiss reject, you can allways try this again), if she tuch you back, procced to another physical moment.
Take her heands, put them on your sholder and ask her how good kisse is she.
If she says she don't know you say let's find out
If she says very good or whatever, kiss her and say that is worst than what she says but u give her another chance.
or
Don't do that, it's weird.
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Reach over and touch her hair while we're talking and make a
comment about it. I'll say "Your hair looks so soft" and just touch the tips of
it.If she smiles and appears to like what she's hearing, I then reach back
over and start stroking it again while talking to her. If she likes this, I know
that she would be receptive to a kiss.- DavidDeAngelo
I also recomand that after you used daviddeangelo tip you can use this story
This one is good :)
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1. I tell her that she smells good and ask what she is wearing. Then I lean in, brush her hair aside, and sniff her slowly, moving up from the shoulder to the ear. "Mmmm, that smells good. People don't pay enough attention to smell. But you'll notice how animals, before they mate, will always smell each other. Evolution has hard-wired us to respond to certain things. You are wired to respond when someone smells you."
2. "It's like when someone pulls the back of your hair. You'll notice how lions, when they mate, always bite and tug at the end of each other's mane, right here." (Since I'm shaved bald, I'll add here, "This is what I miss the most about not having hair"; if you have hair, say, "This is one of my favorite things".) Then I run my hand up the back of her neck and grab a fistful of hair at the roots and pull it, downwards. She says "Mmmm..." And I say "see."
3. Then I talk about how "No one knows this, but the most sensitive places on the body are places that are usually hidden from contact with the air, like the back of the elbow (touching it) and knee (touching it). Any place where your body bends, twists, or folds, there are millions of sensitive little nerve endings that release endorphins. Then I take her arm, bend it a little, and erotically bite the area on the opposite side of the elbow (that crease where it bends). She usually gets the chills, and I have her ratify how good it feels.
[Note for the less experienced: If you don't know how to erotically bite a girl, learn before you do this. You want to take a big chunk of skin -- not a little pinch! â€" and slowly and firmly slide your teeth together until they meet and release the skin. You may want to practice on your own elbow first.]
4. After, I say, "But do you know what the best thing in the world is?...A bite...right...here." And I point to the side of my neck. (Every now and then, I'll add, that "this has to do with the fact that it is where the jugular vein is most exposed, and since most sexual fantasies have to do with submission and vulnerability, it sends all the fantasy signals flying.") Then I'll expose my neck and say, "Bite me right here" as if I expect her to do it. Fifty percent of the time she will. If she doesn't, I just turn away calmly (punish), wait a few seconds, and then turn back and repeat, "Bite me right here." Usually she will.
5. Half the time, her bite is lame. If so, I correct her and say, "That's not how you bite. Come here." Then I give her a good bite on the neck and instruct her to "try again." This time, she ALWAYS does a great job.
6. Now you look her in the eye, smile mischievously/approvingly, and say, very slowly, "not bad." Then glance down at her mouth, back up at her eyes, and...yes...finally...you...may...if you want...and if she's ready...um...kiss!
Short Version: smell, grab hair, touch elbow, touch back of knee, bite elbow, bite my neck, bite her neck, triangular gazing, kiss.

think i found it someware on this forum.. Srry i don;t remember the autor name.
The story is too much, and it's weird.

There really is no need to verbalise it or use complicated routines, they will just fuck things up. I agree with the David DeAngelo part, disagree with the rest...


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 10:31 pm 
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thanks alot, im definately gonna use the elbow bite, and neck bite that's really helpful, i just thought of a thing similar to that, tell me if its good or not. (of course u have to be in comfort and have already done some kino, and led her up to this with complyance tests, but u get the idea).

i got the idea from no-stress's post.
Have to have played with her hair a little before this.

start with something like "hey i just thought of this, why do people think vampires are so sexy?"
Her-blablablablablabla

PUA-Is biting someone's neck really something sexy?
Her- Yes, no Idk

PUA- well now that I think about it, it might be, here bite my neck
(if she does it great, if not then go back and see where u are in comfort, and if u built enough attraction, or did enough kino)

PUA- No no, thats not how (bite her like no-stress says) now try again like that
(essentially the same thing as no-stress's thing)

PUA- I like this, i want more (Kiss)

(and btw thanks AdamThomas as well, i will keep strong eye contact, slow my speech and move closer.)

So is this good, bad, needs work, what
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Don't verbalise it at all. Don't do any routines. Trust me it will only put her off, the verbal kiss routines are pointless... Don't even do your routine.


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you can try all things. Or just not to talk like adams says. Try all see what feets you.


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Don't verbalise it at all. Don't do any routines. Trust me it will only put her off, the verbal kiss routines are pointless... Don't even do your routine.
That's right!

DO NOT VERBALISE IT!!!
I can not say this enough.

You have to create this Hollywood-Moment where you look her in the eyes like if you want to kiss her. Only reason to break eye contact is to look at her lips.
You have to go 90% of the way like in the movie "Hitch"
It's not that hard. If you look her in the eyes both of you will feel this sexual tension and just let it happen, feel it.


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Don't verbalise it at all. Don't do any routines. Trust me it will only put her off, the verbal kiss routines are pointless... Don't even do your routine.
That's right!

DO NOT VERBALISE IT!!!
I can not say this enough.

You have to create this Hollywood-Moment where you look her in the eyes like if you want to kiss her. Only reason to break eye contact is to look at her lips.
You have to go 90% of the way like in the movie "Hitch"
It's not that hard. If you look her in the eyes both of you will feel this sexual tension and just let it happen, feel it.
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I couldn't agree more.

That being said, routines for K-closing will reduce the sexual-tension BUT will be better than nothing if you are unsure about doing a move.

Sttartter, I really think you should not say anything for K-closing, but if you think it would be easier if you had any routine. Here's what you could do (Just keep in mind it's better to not say anything).

This is from an old post of mine:


I am really into dancefloor game and I think it's we're I excel the most. So I've decided to create a post to see a tons of killer line.

Here's a couple that I often use.

1- The usual "just go for the kiss" technique.
2- "Do you want to kiss me" (Mystery method) (If you want me to explain it, just ask)
3- Looks at lips, if she does the same, you: You look like you want to kiss me.
4- What would you do If I kissed you right now? (Similar to mystery method)

I just thought about this one yesturday, not field tested yet.
PUA: Too bad I can't kiss you...
HB: Why?
PUA: I told to myself I will never kiss a girl If I don't even know her name...
If she just tell you her name directly, it means she accepted your offer. If she doesn't react to what you just said, it means she's not ready yet.

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Use the mystery kiss close,

"Hey would u like to kiss me"

She says yes / maybe / Idk. - u go for it.

She says no, say "I didn't say you could" then just go back to normal conversation.

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Thanks alot everyone, ill keep all this in mind. Not verbalizing it is the best way to go, i just need to kino 1st, and lead up to it. Thank you so much

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