I have no problem with the attraction phase - I have attracted many HB9 and even a couple of 10s. I have problems with building comfort, escalate kino and because of that the closes.

So i met this girl at college last week, easily a HB9. I opened directly like a true PUA honestly. The problem is I have competition. And that I am like the nice guy and the other one is the bad guy who is doing insane teasing and kino. I got some iois from her, but she gives IOIs to the other guy too. I feel I am loosing ground though. Today I played the nice guy to have some congruency which I felt was more important. I got some IOIs but as I said I am loosing ground. How do I know? Today I asked her why she is so distant, she said she was thinking about why the other guy called her something. Trying to lower the bad guy value (as a bad guy) I told her he is probably in love with her and he is teasing her.
The thing is I don't have oneties with this girls, altough I like her alot - not only the HB9 body but her in general. I was thinking to switch to the bad guy altough it may be too late I think. How can I win this one? Maybe give her an ultimatum like: grab her by the waist and tell her "I am not interested in you just as a friend, everytime I see you I try too hard not to kiss you".

What do you think? The other guy is my "friend". We know each other. We both now we both want this girl. Too bad I couldn't play the bad guy - that always works with HBs. He also knows what he's doing - but he has lower value in general. I am always surrounded by HBs, and have all the guys respect. So I have my share of alpha, but the problem is I am the nice guy...

BE THE ALPHA MALE

gonna put a huge strain on the friendship if you guys are constantly trying to out AMOG each other.

what friendship? Do you mean with her or? I don't care about the other guy - he is not really a friend, so he can go to hell for all I care.

but give me more advice then BE the ALPHA male. something more specific please. thats why I told her when she said she was thinking about what the bad guy said: "he actually likes you, and thats how he shows it to you". I felt its the alpha thing to do lol cause I was like I don't really give a damn.

PS: excuse my english - its my third language

the biggest mistake I see is that you asked her why she is so distant, recognize that and dont ask these types of questions anymore.

My suggestion is to tell a story about how someone thought you were a "nice guy" and tried to take advantage and you turned it around and put them in their place .. . be creative, make the story fit you. This story will tell her - yeah Im a nice guy but theres a bad boy just beneath the surface, wanna try me?

Update - today I did better. I teased her a little, she responded playfully (good sign). She kino'd me about 3 times. The other guy kept coming but I used some techniques learned here: told him he looks tired, turned my back to him many times (he left about 3 times because of that), when he talked to me I made him repeat 2 or 3 times, and ignored him once (all done pua style not noticeable so to speak).

Tomorrow I'll apply more kino and move the chat on more delicate subjects with the girl

any advice?

I'm not an expert, by any means, but it seems by now you should have really k-closed, so I would ramp up the escalation more, and be a little more forward.

If the guy is still AMOGing you, throw him out - "Oh, I see what your trying to do there, your trying to get in there... good for you" e.c.t.

If he still doesn't leave, you could move the set instead of waiting for him to move. Put out your hand and tell her to come with you because you want to get a drink, use it as a compliance test. From the compliance test you could then move into somewhere more intimate if she responds favorably and k-close. And then pull it away.

Being alpha means you have to lead the interaction, so go do it.

Then again, i'm a complete and utter shameless newbie, so those are just my 2 cents. Everyone can flame me now...

Just remember the goal is close the HB9, not beat your "friend". Subtle distinction but important.

yes good points - thank you both
the thing is I can't be too forward too direct - I tried that way and it really pushed her away.
Today I did INSANE teasing, INSANE kino - she asked me for my number not the other way around (we see each other during college). So patience in this case was the way to go. She even gave me a massage in front of the other AMOG.
So the obstacle now is her distant boyfriend. One more hop.
Advice?
It looks good until now - should I stop the teasing and being funny to something else/more? She gave me a short friendly hug too