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PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 12:44 am 
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Ok, so I am extremely new to the game and still building confidence. As a model and owner of a personal training company, most of my life revolves around these two things, so I decided to use them in an opener.

I walked the street tonight opening to random targets near my gym with the following:

Me: I dont mean to interrupt you, but you have a great look. Im assuming you dont work out at the gym across the street (point to crap gym)

Girl: Tehe, nope why?

Me: Well, im the owner of a local personal training company seeking promotional models for a photoshoot.

- I hand her my card

Girl: Oh wow, thanks alot.

Me: What we are looking for are healthy, real looking people who DONT look or dress like fashion models (slight neg)

Girl: Er, ok, when is the shoot?

Me: We are still in the planning stages, but if you give me your number I can give you a call and we can discuss.

Now, this actually worked with two girls and failed dismally with two others. I approached girls in groups of 2-3 and targeted the ugly one to throw her friends off. I would then pass out my cards and collect numbers.

At this point, Im just trying to build confidence, but I would appreciate some feedback on my opener and how it could be tweaked to be more effective.

PS: Being a model, I can easily set up photoshoots with the girl to impress her if necessary.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 1:35 am 
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That's good that this has worked a few times, but I think I can understand why it's also failed. An opener like that can make some people uneasy. While you're going up conveying to them that you're just networking, it's not really opening up interest or attraction.

IMHO I recommend that you bring this up sometime later in the conversation, not initially, in order to reduce your chances of failure. 8)


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 1:51 am 
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First, don't say "didn't mean to interrupt you..." or "excuse me..." or any other sort of apology when approaching, its a DLV. Next, I personally would not say that you're "the owner of a local personal training company", as even though its true, it may come off as bragging. Possible just say that you are looking for promotional models for a local personal training company, and if it comes up, then tell them you are the owner. And since you're going to use that little neg later, I'd swap the compliment for something a little more Ross Jeffries (something about her great energy, or grace) that way it doesn't seem incongruent when you get to your neg and imply that she DOESN'T look like a model. Also, before you automatically qualify her, you should make her do a few model poses or something similar, that way shes trying to prove herself to you right off the bat.


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Wildcat makes a great point, I do lots of recruiting for my company and this is my game... have her qualify herself. I would say

Hi I gotta jump on a conference call here soon but i had to talk to you cause you caught my attention what do you do for a living? (let her answer) oh cool how long have you done that for? oh so you must like it... you don't? are you open to modeling? (or have you ever concidered modeling?) *tell her what your goal is about looking for a model or what not*

-now this is where you seal the deal and you have to do this with lots of confidence

...I'm not looking for just anyone, the person I'm looking for has 3 qualities, they're Healthy, Energetic and must be Coachable do you feel you have these qualities? yes? perfect take my number... (if you give her yours first she will be more open to giving you hers) 555-555... by the way my name is Swiftone (she tells you hers, this is done to interrupt her thinking "whats going on? what's this about?") oh 555-555-5555 (take your phone out look straight at your phone and say) and what's the best number I can reach you at 555...??? (and you wait for her to give you the remaining numbers do not look at her keep your eyes on the phone!) cool, when would be a great time to reach you? (she gives you time so now you've scheduled a time) cool i'll talk to you then

don't give her a business card from the beginning... its a DLV its like you're showing off... if you want her to have your card wait till you're leaving and say hang on... I think i have an extra card, oh yeah here you go... this is a DHV because you've been looking for people and that's your last card so it creates fear of loss


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 9:33 pm 
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I disagree...

never give out cards... its to common... and you decrease your value because u look needy/nerdy/creepy in doing so.. to predatorial...

also, never give your phone number always get hers....

remember you are the prize... and the girl is is lucky to be talking to you she needs to show value before you give her number... even then its better to say something like..


well i have to go meet my business partner and see how his search is going... how can i contact you..


hey i have to be across town in 15 mins so i gotta go, we should pick this up later...


nice tlaking to you, but my friends are waiting for me inside this club, when can i see you again gto discuss this further...

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shurgs!!! I love it! I learned something new today... thanks...


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I dunno it's alright for an opener I guess. It sounds like your trying to impress them a bit to much, and also if they are really good looking they will assume your hitting on them. Your building confidence in the approach and learning that is awesome. Think about using a few negs in their after you get their attention then telling a funny or interesting story about someone at the gym you saw today. Then go into a routine, and another story but abruptly leave saying you'll get in touch with them or something. Just practice that during the day a few times, and think about a few different openers.


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