Hey guys,
This is my first post, ive followed the community for a while, had some sucess and improvement but last weekend i fucked up with a girl and what is causing me to post is the general shock and uncertainly of what to do, ignore, reply or maybe even apologise?

(p.s Im omitting the details of things i did well with her!)

Basically the whole problem is caused by alcohol, i was doing great untill i became overly drunk and thats when, obviously my game unravelled. Lesson to me and all: hold off on too much booze.

So, i picked up a girl saturday night, using C+F which is always natural for me, interesting conversation, funny strange topics etc etc. We were 'mutual friends' meeting for first time, spoke on an off for a while during the night...and I got the the girl back to mine.

This is where my memory goes very fuzzy, i remember us talking, watching t.v and lying on the bed, but not much of the topics for a couple of hours. I also remember saying there was no point in her leavng at 5.a.m when she could wait untill 6 and get the metro. She left, but from what i remember on good terms, and i thought, overall the night went well, she was complimenting and seeemed to be having fun and it was a cool chick. She was very open about all things, even the guys she has been with.

Now i know for a fact, that C+F is easy for me and I can easily switch into asshole mode ( im borderline inappropriate anyway, which she seemed to love), and often do ( which i believe happened for sure) ......which is not good, and made fun of her being young, innocent and im sure other things, overall i got the impression her finding me to be a player type.

So i know my game went right off when we got back, and that trying to get her to stay longer was bad, i know i acted like a pussy, of what i can remember at least.

So i contacted 2 days later, using the only method i could, using a David DeAngelo template, C+F and a proposition:

Along the lines of:

so i know you are probably intimidated to hang out with a charismatic rockstar such as myself, someone who is possibly badder that you ( in joke), but dont worry, ill be an ass, you will hate me, and life will go on.

Next i said i was going to see a movie ( we had discussed) (joking the donkey show was sold out- another in joke), asking which day out of thurs/fri she could make it.

No suprise, I got a reply a day later, which i believe is a F.U, but could possibly be a shit test based on all the good things and the way we got on.

Response:

Heres what worries me. First off, if you're an ass and I will hate you, why would I want to go to some donkey show with you or go see or avatar 3d ( which by the way you just said sucked so...)

MOREOVER I left your place. You turned out to be a lot less of a "charismatic rock star" than i thought. Also, you said that it was stupid that i go home for the night.

To answer your question, neither day works best. And no other days.

Keeping my "innocence"

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Ok so my instincts tell me its an FU, but it could just be a shit test as a reaction to all of my cocky ways. The fact that its so overtly FU, considering the overall good time she had, for me, seems a bit much.

If it is a shit test, my response would be something like : ( trying to brush it off an escalate the insult on me)

""You caught me, I am sooooo not a rockstar, I model myself on Mclovin in all honesty. Based on your tone I guess you managed to get me very drunk then, although not drunk enough to brake my “no putting out rule”...*phew*, nice try though!""

So gentlemen, i would appreciate any views, i know the mistakes i made that night, but part of me wouldnt mind following the chemistry we had. If not all is good, i have another couple im working on.

Thanks in advance

i really dont think this is a shit test, she seems rather angry and annoyed, maybe lay off the C+F and find out what really happened that nite if u cant remember. but honestly it doesnt look good

I would take it as testing your personality, in which you should find out what she being such a bi'atch. If she actually has a valid reason that you truly believe she should be angry about, then address. If she is just being retarded, then call her out on it and continue rocking...

Peace

My Grandpa always used to say:

BOOOOYYY DUMP DA BITCH.

In German, though.

Srsly, what do you care about that one chick? get another one.

I have to agree, why bother with this one? Just go get another one or two

Also, CF works, but when you get a chick back to your place, its best to escalate kino asap, get things comfy, and get some clothes off... of her

You do not have to be OVERLY cf, then you do kinda get to be annoying or an asshole... not really a good thing.

I would suggest not thinking about this female again, and next time you have a chick at your place you better be knockin boots!

Cheers, and good luck out there.

If I understand this correctly... you're saying you laid on the bed with her for two hours watching TV and didn't make a move?


Her response is kind of strange though. Typically if a woman isn't interested, they'll just ignore you. You either did something to really piss her off (such as talking a lot of game and then not fucking her after she put herself out there by coming to your house), or, she still has a flicker of interest and wants to see how you'll handle this.

Wow, personally I'd leave that alone... I can relate to regretting not going for it when you had the chance, but I don't see any clear way to respond to that without giving up your stance of dominance in the relationship even temporarily, or making her even more mad. Especially over the phone.

I'd agree with most comments in that who gives a crap, this is just one random girl. However i'd still be curious to know where it went wrong and wouldn't just give up.

I like your response but obviously that is only if she is being CF.
There are probably a few ways to approach this and i'd argue no perfect answer.

Personally I would send your CF response and see where it goes from there, either she opens up a bit and it turns out it was a joke (in fact get something in there where it makes it sound like you think she IS joking) in which case continue the game...

or she gives you another FU at which point i'd say 'hey i thought we had a laugh together, did i do something to upset you?'
and hopefully somewhere the truth will unravel and you can find out where it went wrong.

Alternatively you could put the 'did i upset you..' question in first before the CF response however I think this would make you look too worried about what she thinks and IF it is a CF response from her then I think you would make yourself look silly.

Please let us know where this one goes....
It sounds interesting,

best of luck,

TT

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It was most definitely a BIG F U! I know its hard to swallow the fact that you fucked up big time by not making a move when she was in your bed but its best to just cut your losses, learn from it, and move on. The first text you sent her was pointless and stupid. A simple "Watsup loserface? Wanna catch a movie?" would have been fine (with or without the loserface).

I sometimes run into the same problem where I confuse bragging with displaying confidence. Girls like confident guys that don't care whether she thinks they're cool or not. They don't like guys that brag. It makes you seems insecure.

Anyways, we all live and learn. Better luck next time...

P.S. I know alcohol is fucking awesome but take it easy bro. They won't stop making it anytime soon.

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