Something I've been wondering for a while, and it's a problem especially in the UK. Barmaids are frequently HB8s and upwards, and I'd love to get a phone number off some of them.

Unfortunately, here in the UK they do not serve at the table, but just stand behind the bar. Which means almost zero possibility for kino, unless the bar is really thin or you're leaning in a lot (which I think is awful body-language in the first place - right?). Not to mention just how damn busy they are when the pub is packed, but that's something no-one can do anything about really.

So my question is: are there any ways to phone-close a bar-maid?

I've figured out what I think is a good opener to establish attraction and familiarity, but I haven't thought of ways to bring it further. It goes like this:

Me: (chatting intently to my pal).
Girl: (coming over) Can I get you anything?
Me: (turning my glance towards her but not my body and flashing a big smile, feigning distraction and some hurry) Yeah, tell me something: how much is a beer?
Girl: (whatever price).
Me: All right. How much is it for your telephone number?
Girl: (laughs)
Me: (downplaying) Ok, I'll have a beer. (I turn back to my friend and resume chatting, don't look at her while she's filling it up. Just a quick "Thanks, sugar" and a smile when she actually serves the beer).

This always works wonders to predispose the girl and the next times I come over they're always smiling and up for a joke. But I'll be damned if I know how to take it from the jokish phone-close to a real phone-close. Whenever I tried to escalate to that point, the girls said nope (with one exception, but that was quite lucky).

Any thoughts?

Bartender/Barmaids
Sounds like a pretty good one man.
I get a big stiffy by picking up bartenders. I would like to share some stuff with you.
Before I would say something like that, I would try to show a little less interest in her. By shotgunning something like that you could just look like all of the other chumps who try to game her.
Although I am not a big believer in working routines because everything is pretty instantaneous I will tell you what I do, and it is successful almost every time.

I go to the bar with one of my buddies or a pivot and sit in a high action spot of the bartenders. I do not show interest in any of the bartenders and always maintain my posture and keep a keen smile on my face. After going to the bar the second time and having a few beers, when the bartender asks.."Would you like another beer?" I pause.
Very slowly I will look her directly in the eye and say. Are you trying to get me drunk? Look as serious as possible. When I mean serious, I mean serious. She will laugh and try to get a laugh out of you. Do not laugh.
Since it is her job to please the customers, she will begin to have a little sense of worry and feel the need to please you (because that is her job)

From here on out I maintain the whole serious kind of vibe with her and bust on her a little bit throughout the night. This will build immense loads of attention and require her to work for your validation. You could throw in little rewards every here and there so she wont entirely give up on you and get really angry and give up.

Then. When she is somewhere alone, walking somewhere or serving you a drink, grab her by the arm and say something like. "Are you always so serious? Have yourself a little fun." Make sure you smile and make sure your smile relieves some of the tension between you and her. ( This will give her reassurance that she has proved herself to you) She will feel like she is getting closer to her accomplishment of getting your validation.

After you have done this I say (once secluded) You know something, It is reassuring to see someone who can take their job so seriously and actually know how to respect and treat someone. Women who are bartenders usually get on my nerves, but your demeanor is quite reassuring. Do not ask for her number. Just pull out your phone and look at her. You have implied that she is going to give it to you.
Nine out of ten times she will. Since you werent like all of the other chumps who use silly one liners on her, and ask her what time she gets off of work, you will shine.

Try it out and see what happens.

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thats sounds awesome, i will defo try this at some point!

thanks

heres 1 i use a good bit and it always gets a smile. u can lead into a conversation after or a routine like a bar trick or something.

i dont know about america or anywhere else but in Ireland when the barmaid/bartender comes to serve you they usually say 1 of the following below.

Her: are you ok/are you alright?

Me: well, ive a bit of a headache, lost my job today, my pet turtle died. im not in any mood for you to be hitting on me but i'll have a drink. (cocky smile of course). its always worked for me ive used it about 10 times and its never went bad. try it and see. or change it to suit yourself better. thats my 2 cent haha

hired guns are my new favorite pastime and defintily dont use any crappy lies ask her for her number or when she gets off work cause as was pointed out before then you just look like every other chump in the bar and thats the last thing you want to look like. remember DHV DHV DHV. Oh and i also find that not being able to use kino can be used to your advantage. You can really use it to kind of tease a girl and really play on the push pull principle since your literalty seperated by the bar. Ive been told one time by a hired gun that they wanted to pull me over the bar and fuck me right then and there! what turns them on here is the kind of forbidden fruit kinda deal. If you can build that much attraction the fact that theyre working and cant have you makes them want you more so use this to your advantage to build tension.

5uave does this really work? Im also from chicago what kind of bars have you used this in cause im intrested in trying it out for myself