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| kodierer | PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 9:54 pm | |
| Offline | | Member of MPUA Forum |  | Joined: Sun Mar 02, 2008 12:26 am Posts: 139 | | Ok NLP experts out there.
Heres my question, if you run the cube on a girl, before you interpret it if she has a strong horse real close(boyfriend) could you then perhaps have her imagine the horse alone getting sick and weak and moving further from the cube in hopes of changing what she thinks? Maybe run a 5 step hypnosis elevator on her before the cube?
Also if the horse is in the distance(no boyfriend), could I perhaps touch my chest everytime I mention the horse to ground myself subconsciously as the horse?
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| Roads | PostPosted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 6:15 pm | |
| Offline | | PUA Forum Leader |  | Joined: Thu Nov 01, 2007 7:00 am Posts: 1621 AOL: latergator83 Location: NE | | It is difficult to get people to willingly associate negative feelings with something in their minds without the inclusion of positive feelings during or after the fact.
In other words, if you want the horse (her bf) to sicken and wither in her mind, you will likely have to provide incentive for her to do that as you issue this command or promise a reward after she does that.
Also, NLP works much better with positive feelings, and is in my opinion more ethical when used in this respect. Try not to go around anchoring negative feelings to things in girls' lives, at least not without a more compelling reason than "I want her to ditch her boyfriend so she can sleep with me" because chances are she will probably sleep with you anyway if you gamed her right.
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| BlakMagik | PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 7:57 am | |
| Offline | | Member of MPUA Forum | Joined: Thu Nov 08, 2007 8:00 am Posts: 122 Website: http://www.attractwomen.com.au Location: Sydney | | sounds like wat ur trying to do is another version of using a submodality. what ur asking for is actually done by SSers but in a slightly different way. read up on submodalities and how to use them if u want to do this because as Roads already said there will be no incentive for her to respond to ur command.
ill give u basic run-down on what submodalities actually are: they are the ways in which we store feelings in our minds. Ross J covers it well in his ebook 'Secrets of Speed Seduction'. when we think about ppl we associate various senses with that person: sights (a picture of them), sounds (their voice) and smells. what SSers usually do is get the target to associate the same submodalities she has with someone she loves, with themselves. i think its possible to do the reverse with someone she loves but much more difficult because as Roads explained NLP is more successful with positive emotions. _________________ "Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and fuck the prom queen."
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| kodierer | PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 8:05 am | |
| Offline | | Member of MPUA Forum |  | Joined: Sun Mar 02, 2008 12:26 am Posts: 139 | | Ok, thanks, also if I touch my chest when I mention the horse while running the cube, will it anchor that emotion to me?
Also if you can get them to do the cube, then you already have compliance. Why not another cool mind trick? So thats when you get them to comply with imagining on your left hand a whole bunch of good qualities and feelings they like in a man, and then having them imagine your face on the other and then moving your face over to the qualities. If you did it in a playful/joking way you may be able to pull that off without them thinking any sinister thoughts about what your doing.
What do you think about that?
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| BlakMagik | PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 9:27 am | |
| Offline | | Member of MPUA Forum | Joined: Thu Nov 08, 2007 8:00 am Posts: 122 Website: http://www.attractwomen.com.au Location: Sydney | | hahaha u can try it out if u want man but self-points are a lot more safer.. it'd be pretty hard to hide. u shouldnt be thinking what ur doing is 'sinister' anyway. remember ur just allowing her to experience these wonderful emotions so actually ur doing her a favour. thats why most SSers dont advocate the use of negative anchors or feelings in NLP its immoral and sinister.
and in response to ur other question, i think self-pointing would be a lot more effective when describing her horse. e.g. "your horse is in between ur cube and the ladder, so that means ur ideal guy is most likely to be a good friend of urs or someone who u feel that strong sense of familiarity with *self-point*". self-points subconsciously make them think of u as that horse and dont associate feelings with u but instead characteristics.
an anchor is used to associate FEELINGS with an action. so if u want u could try anchor the feelings she'd be getting if she met this 'horse' [i.e. "u get that feeling in the pit of ur stomach which just starts to spread throughout ur body like a fire, ur heart-rate increases and ur breathing becomes shallow etc etc"] there are so many opportunities to transition into well-known patterns while doing the cube, so just remember to have fun with it. _________________ "Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and fuck the prom queen."
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