ok so I tend to not have a problem doing an opener, I think Im creative enough for that but once the opener is dying and I know it how to I transition to something more personal/sexual to get the women thinking about me in that way?

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alright did I post this in the right place? where you guys at

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are you asking a question? I seemed like a statement.

Well, from what I gather i think ther best thing to do is start multiple threads and tell stories..

I had a situation yesterday where the discussion went into how the younger generation is working more, so I asked her what her crappiest job was. It made the convo very down to earth...

Also you can use the cube, play some games...

That's probably the best thing i learned from all the PUA forums...

All those DHV techniques work great for keeping it interesting

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The Hen-Tie or Matrix Tie Explanation
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YA-n2xkYX6s

Don't let the opener or conversation die. Ask random questions when they are talking, here is an example:

(opener) PUA: What's better a night in Las Vegas or a day in Miami ?

HB: Of course a night in Las Vegas

PUA : A party girl, Are you from Canada ?

HB: No, I'm from Califronia

PUA: You talk like julia roberts...

HB: Of course not

PUA : But you were telling me about Las Vegas (You can go back and forward with the open threats.)

HB: Yeah I love las Vegas, I like gambling ...

PUA: So how's California

HB: Its fun

PUA: Your a party girl I can see, but you still talk like julia roberts

HB: I hate julia roberts

PUA: So you like Gambling what's your favorite game... (Later on you can ask her why she hates julia roberts and so on.) (other things to add later on: What you do in california, we could go to las vegas together party girl and we could watch a julia roberts movie ... )

The trick here is to let the topic unfinished by interrupting her with another question out of topic... and then back again ... You get it ?

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yer, listen to XF...
Don't only focus on routines, you have to use some stuff from the cirumstance. DONT get me wrong, routines etc. are very important, but don't forget u need to be enhancing ure social skills. If you can't hold a convo with a girl, without it getting boring, then you have to go back to your communication routes.
"Communication is power. Those who have mastered its effective use can change their own experience of the world and the world's experience of them" -- Anthony Robbins

If you wanna make her think more sexually of you, then I'd recomend you escalating kino. This has proven the best method for me.
Hope I've helped
Simple

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You got a point man, the only way to make a girl think of you in a sexual way is by the use of words, NLP or Kino and escalating kino is the simplest way to do it.

* Another thing, like Simple said, don't focused only on routines.

Because what happen if the girl don't respond the way you thought , then you will have to improvise , have some outline on what to do , maybe some canned material, but improvise, use the environment. (look for details you can add, check the outfit of the girl , check what she is drinking , many details. )

You can also use this one:

If she is carrying a drink ask her :

PUA: What's your drink ?

HB: Sprite & Vodka

PUA: Did you know that you can tell many things about what you like to drink ....

(check the last part of the post for the cold reading routine of this...)

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