long story short. my friends want to talk to this girl that has benn giving the GROUP IOIs and ill try to help my friend andy out. he is an AFC and refuses to go up to her group with guys in. i open up with a opinion opere bout kissing and cheating. disarm the guys give her negs bout typical female answer. long story short. tells me im an asshole (flirty and play ful way). gives me alot of kino touches my hair chest and calls me CUTE in front of everyone. i neg her a bit all in a playful way. tlk bout country girls blah blah. my friend gets her number but i had her.. i know i did. should have i asked for her number while she was giving it to andy? andy wont let me talk to her or wont text her that i think she is cute, he wants to keep her to herself. she told us to come visit but shee hook my 2 friends up not me becasue i kissed a girl ( the opinion opener) even tho i dont have a gf. should i go to her bar where she works wensday and casually be like oh hey forgot u told me u work here? where did i go wrong. i had i had it i had and andy knows i can get her back because i got the confidence and the belief in myslef that i can get her. any tips? feedback. thanks guys!! P.S. I like this girl alot and i think i have a crush on her even tho i met her last night..!!! lolol

You're probably thinking too much into this, I think the mate of yours is a little intimidated by your ability to talk to women, he knows if you start texting her its game on for you. Might have to bite the bullet on this one and just leave it, talk to your mate casualy next time you go sarging and explain the theory of wingmanning.
If you have skills in picking up women, just add this to your list of lessons learnt and just get onto some more sets. Good luck sarging with people who cock-block though, ive got one or two mates like this and I find they get way to in depth with their attempts to steal sets and tell elaborate stories etc. Just throw in a few subtle knock downs to show tham your the AMOG in the room!

Peace

yea i learned from this i should of been more agressive and got the number right there insead of waiting and delaying in conversation. we saw her again 4 days later at the bar she wroked at. she was let off early and suprisingly came and talked o us even tho she texted andy because well she has his number. we talked i did my game. very hard girl. one in a million. but i know this is oneitis. so i wont get my hopes up. i was gonna pull a hail mary and tell her straight up if she wanted to go further or notand that i have tons of friends and im not looking for "friends" but andy was there. but yea ur rightt man. LESSON LEARNED haha. thanks

I had complete faith that you could easily pull this one through until i read "She is a one in a million...". Then I facepalmed. It's good that your AFC friend has her number, I use this strategy all the time! Let them text her 24/7 and get friendzoned, while you are the fun sexy guy she sees around. Be flirty, and escalate when you get the chance!

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lol agree with the facepalming lol...

Good strat...I do something similar to that with some friends. I basically let them play themselves out, knowing what their end result will be, then come in later. I think this probably is the best situation for you now. Let him get FZ'd then scoop n smash.

If you wanted to play differently, you shouldve capitalized during the initial conversation. What you basically did, was get her real worked up, and then your friend capitalized. It definitely CAN happen. You can work a girl n she's good to go, then she gets snatched cause you dont GO. Finally, you should lay down some HOW TO's for your friend. If its your set...its YOUR set n vice versa. Dont allow your wings to take your target unless you really played yourself out, and its kinda his turn. Know what I mean??

you guys are right wen we saw her at work i felt as if he was headed to the friend zone. I didnt see this as a possible tactic but u guys r right. I FUCKING LOVE THIS site. so im thinking tell andy to keep texting her because i know he doesnt have game. only girls he gets are the really drunk ones or the ones that choose him. let him text and text and text. if we hang out all 3 together wa do u reccomend i go for? the hail mary as i was planning?

just a thought... why would you want a number from a girl that doesnt even care who she gives it too? It sounds like you had good game going, that shouldve shown her your worth more, but if she just hands that shit out like nothing, to your afc friend... lame, i wouldnt touch that girl man

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bro ur right. i just tfound out tonight that, that nite we saw her at her job her friend told me she went to fuck his friend that night (one of the original dudes in the 1st encounter) FML. its alright im not gonna lie. im kinda sad cus my success rate is 17% BUT i gotta keep trying on more girls keep going and going and tryn harder. when her friend told me this my AA just skyrocketed tonight. BUT its alright. i need to go out and approach more sets MORE MORE MORE. so i take it that this girls ends here. any tips on how u guys can tell a girl is decieving me?

First off if you had her then you would have gotten her number not Andy. Have you thought that you are miss reading things here when you where gaming the girl? Because if you really did had her Andy would never been able to get her number from her. The fact that he got it and you didn't tells me otherwise. And before you get more aggressive with girls I suggest you learn to read their body language better. Because just because a girl is flirting with you does not mean she is actually into you.

Secondly if you really value Andy as a friend and want to keep him as one, don't steal the girl away from him. Ya I know you are really into this girl and have a crush on her, but can you really be that mad at Andy for wanting to keep her away from you? Because what friend are you to him if you are going to steal girls away from him?

JURUPA

good point man. i see what your saying. thanks for thte heads up. next girl.

Jurupa...spot on my friend. I have a tendency to believe what ppl say on here based on the fact I ASSUME they read every signal correctly. I enjoyed the fact you pointed out, that QUITE POSSIBLY....he read the sitch wrong.

I personally tell my friends if they bring a girl around me, n havent closed, that I will. It then becomes their choice if they wanna risk whatever. I don't LIKE to take girl from friends...but there is only a handful of friends I respect enough NOT to. So I suppose that is my own shit to work out...

In all honesty, jurupa is probably correct in his assessment. If not, and your friend cant close, she is fair game in my book. I have had girls taken from me, and taken them from friends, and it hasnt hurt my friendships. I could see that happening with less secure guys, but the VAST majority of my friends go with a "bros before hos attitude" n its not really an issue. It really comes down to realizing that hot girls are not rare. Once you realize that, it becomes much more about everyone playing well, than "hey you took my girl" bullshit. Maybe I am just blessed with having CLOSE friends who care more about the friendship than girls. One of my best friends fucked an ex of mine like 2-3 weeks after we broke up...I was mad, but I wasn't about to lose one of my best friends over a girl. (we literally FOUGHT over it...then both cried n it was cool (call me a pussy, it was my first love n I dont really care about your opinions).

If you want her, let your friend FZ himself, and capitalize as the hot flirty friend who happens to be around n then ends up fucking her. If not, then dont take her from your friend. It really, in my opinion, depends on your friendship n how much it means to you.