I can't seem to f-close with this chick. Here's the problem we were f-buddies for awhile but had to lay off for legimate reasons as there could of been serious consequences for her if we'd continued, can't really go into to that at all on here (these aren't flaky reasons these are real reasons that unless you are complete douche and want to ruin a girls life back the f up)

Anyway I stuck by her due to the circumstances because I genuinely wanted to help her out and she genuinely needed it at the time. So I did all the running around for her, listening to her problems etc. etc. I knew what I was doing and knew I'd put myself in the friends zone but that was idea because nothing could happen anyway but along the way my head did get a little screwed especially once the circumstances eventually changed and we did have some stupid arguements over it which is pretty much why I'm having issues right now.

Fast forward to now and the outside factors are no longer an issue. She doesnt have to worry about about any consequences but now I just can't seem to f-close. She says I'm her best friend and anything else will just fuck with my head and destroy are friendship. I know what your thinking get over it move on and I would if I didnt know she was interested. She gets turned on around me all the time and is more than happy to let me rub my hands all over her body. I stayed round there last night and in the morning I ended figuring her, there was some token resistance but she wanted it. After i stopped she told me I really do have to listen to her and shes still adamant its not going to happen she basically thinks I couldnt handle it I think that I'll come on too strong or something I think. She did say after that I should stop with the kissing thats relationship stuff which I thought was quite telling. This wasnt romantic kissing it was heat of the moment stuff and she was enjoying it. She says she can see exactly how it will play out and its not worth it.

I just wanted some advise from the more experienced people on here what my next move should be because I dont have alot of experience. I am in a good place right now, my heads screwed on and if shes not interested I will move on happily. I know there are plenty more women out there but I'm not going to pussy out of it either and miss out what life has to offer just because I didnt go for it. I've been as confident the last few weeks as I have ever been. In terms of this girl I just want to do whats natural, im not obessing over a future with her here. If something happens it happens if it turns out to be just sex thats what it is if it turns into something more then it will.

So thats my perdictament I do currently see her almost everyday, talk to her whilst I'm at work, ive stayed over there more than my own place lately and every night ive ended up all over her she hasnt stopped me because shes enjoys it but it was time of the month until this morning. Sorry for the essay just wanted to give a compleate picture, its been a weird situation from day 1. The only plan i've come up with so far is to escalate everytime we start flirting as I have been the last few days and if she keeps cutting me off to just take a break from her and tell her "she needs to work out whats going on in her head and what she wants because i'm not going to be her gay friend" and then drop out her life for awhile. Again could do with more advice on what I should do and how.

Any help any of you can offer would be much appreciated at the very least this is a good learning curve as im still rAFC at best!

When I was younger I was in situations that kind of mimic that. You hook up, kinda dig the girl so your nice, it transitions to friendship, you spend some time trying to get back, then finally say fuck it. That has been my experience. The remedy, never do it again, or be fine with being friends. I have girls who I have hooked up with, n for one reason or another friendship is where it ended. If when u were feeling the paradigm shift and you distanced yourself, you might've made it work. Now, run away as fast as u can. Don't play into her shit, make her match your reality. This means stop talking to her n be one busy with other girls. You can subtly let her know this too. Just cut off communication except little two word responses. Remember, go against what your gut is telling you, because you have programmed yourself as her friend now. Don't run around for her, don't listen to her problems, take a day to respond to her etc.

Now, I would next her n get more, n once u do you will realize how little she actually is. If you don't, then enjoy being her friend. There is nothing wrong with having female friends, just realize that is where it stops. Either way it will be fine, but it definitely is hard to transition from the friend zone. Don't make hooking up with you an ultimatum either, it wont work n its just a last ditch effort to grab some sort of power back (this goes for girls giving you one also, don't play into it).

Finally, don't get caught up in her saying "we shouldn't have done that". Alot of girls say that once they get back to baseline from being very sexually charged. They get wrapped up in the moment n then later am like wow how did that happen. Its completely normal n nothing to worry about.

The best revenge is living well. Live well my friend, n make sure she knows but be subtle. Remember, it is a game! Play well. Don't make this girl a priority. Maybe the space will help her realize she wants you, maybenot. Either way it will give you the opportunity to go grab some primo tail n forget about her. Good luck buddy, post how it is going.

This situation was kind of different in that we hooked up and then had to stop and then I was all nice and really went all out to help her because she was someone I wanted in my life regardless.

I did finally close it two nights running but it was awkward as shit early morning when we were both shattered and then late night when we're still tired. I got the whole "we shouldnt do this" "it's a bad idea" but blantantly wanted too. She never let herself go properly though kept trying to call it off which kinda ruined the vibe and now we left with the "we just dont have that sexual chemistry" "everything else is great the time together, the flirting and you do make me cum but its just awkward" etc. etc. which is basically because she spends the enitire time fighting with her head saying we shouldnt do this it's a bad idea it will fuck with his ruin his friendship etc. hardly lets you enjoy the passion My point being if she stopped worrying about everything and just let it happen we'd have had some fun and memories and it would of run it's course no regrets and still friends at the end of it. Now though it will be hard when she hooks up with a guy because of the what if's, it's the fact she wanted the same thing but because i've a few mistakes along the way when it was definately never going to be on she held back. I mean it literally hits her we'll be vibing having a laugh flirting outrageously and then it gets to a point where her mind switches. It's frustrating as hell. I mean shes even hung up on putting x's on the end of her texts to me because she thinks Ill take it the wrong way and fall madly in love.

I was thinking of the cutting contact alot was always going to be my next step but she lives 2 mins away and we've spent a ridiculous amount of time together so it will be hard especially to do it in a non-challant cool way. Any advice on how I do it a non-bitchy way would be great because anytime I do this stuff normally it always comes accross wrong. I'm already looking to hook up with other girls and she'll know about it because she talks to my SPAM, shes almost certainly going to hook-up with this other dude soon and I'm actually not all that bothered if thats what she wants then whatever just frustrating that she so obviously has a thing for me, gets horny around me even will do things with me but is still always scared I'm going to become some sort of lovesick puppy *sigh* it really is a really weird scenario we'll flip throughout the day from friendzone interaction, relationship interaction and plain old hook-up interaction lol its a bit of mind melt.