The Initial SMS - Daygame Follow Up



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The Initial SMS – Daygame Follow Up

Getting the number, Daygame or not, is an important step towards seeing a girl again. Admittedly, there are lots of avenues you can follow towards seeing a woman again after your initial meeting but this article focuses solely on my follow up technique on Daygame numbers.

Firstly, you got the number! Congratulate yourself, especially if you’re just starting out. Closing a stranger during the day is not easy. Many Lair-Guys may not acknowledge it but you have just entered an elite circle of men who can get a phone number from a stranger after only a brief encounter during the day. Ask men who haven’t encountered the community. Not only can very few of them have ever claimed to have done this but the thought of it is usually very challenging to them. Of the few that have, few can claim that it is happened more than once.

Successfully following up on a Daygame pickup over the phone can be done in many ways and there is much to consider. I’ll be explaining my technique and what I consider when I follow up on a target. I will also include some of my successes and failures. For those who don’t understand my style of Daygame, please refer to my previous article – “Natural Daygame”.

A good Daygame follow up starts at the initial pickup. You should try to pick some topic from your initial conversation to include in the first message. In the best case, this will be something humorous at least something highly distinctive. If there was something you teased the girl about during your initial encounter, this forms the perfect basis from which to build attraction over the phone. If you have a poor memory than writing down the major topics from your conversation will help you when you follow up (which may be some days later!).

Before you leave with the number, it is always best practice to ensure that the target also has your number by pranking them. This will save you from my most hated SMS message , the “who’s this?” message. By ensuring the target has your number before you leave, you will save yourself a great deal of heartache caused by wasting time clarifying who you are and why you are messaging.

Before you begin the follow up, have a think about where you would like to take this. Would you like a date with this girl? If so, what type of date would you like? Dinner? Drinks? Home cooked meal? Romantic date? Novelty date? What days are you free to see her?

Not having the free slots in your calendar in mind before you start can cause problems. You should be aware of when you can fit the date in. Also, the type of date is an important consideration. What kind of girl did you meet? Did she mention anything during the encounter that would form the basis for a good date?

Once again, we can see that successful follow up really begins at the pickup itself. Under ideal circumstances you would have already decided upon an activity the two of you would like to share and a convenient time before you have even left the initial encounter. Unfortunately, we do not live in an ideal world and, more often, you will probably be sorting out the date during the initial follow up.

So, you have a good idea of what type of date you’d like. You’ve factored in logistics. If picking a bar, is it near to your place? Will you have to drive? What will happen if you get drunk and cannot drive? If picking a restaurant, what can you do after dinner? Is there an ice-cream shop nearby? A café, a cinema? Is your place nearby?

Next is the waiting period. I gauge my waiting period but how excitable my target seemed about the next encounter. If she was “chomping at the bit”, I might follow up the next day. If she played it cool, I might wait 3 – 5 days for my follow up. Learning this took some time and I experimented. I tried things like sending a message straight away. This has yielded an (almost) instant date, but more often than not I found this led to flakes. I recommend waiting for at least 1 day, if not 3.

The next consideration is whether to call or SMS. I find that younger targets respond well to SMS and more mature targets respond better to phone calls. The Y-Gen naturally understand SMS and use it often. The rest of this article assumes you are going to use SMS.

Opening Your Target Via SMS

Your initial encounter with the target may have only been for a matter of minutes. Both of you are still exploring each other and coming to terms with each other. The most important thing to consider when you are initiating your follow up are to ensure you don’t come off as an emotional risk. By emotional risk, I mean don’t demonstrate any traits that may make the girl reconsider dating you. Far too often, I have come off as needy in my SMS’s, unintentionally, and this has repelled the women hard and fast. Remember, she has already taken a risk by giving her number to a stranger during the day. Any sign that you are a “dating-risk” will likely cause her to flake. I find the best way to open SMS conversation is to use a light hearted joke, that requires a response and mix that with a reminder of something from your conversation.

A famous message that I frequently use in this situation is:

“hey I saw something that reminded me of you today!”

This message is famous for a reason. Firstly, it creates intrigue. Secondly, it requires a response. True, it may be seen as kind of needy, in that you are already thinking about a target that you may have only met briefly, but I have never failed to get a response on this message from a target that has not already flaked.

The most commonly received response will be the ineloquent:
“what”… “what’s that” or something similar.

This is where your preparation comes into play. The subject, preferably a humorous one, from your conversation should be inserted here. This will bring your conversation and any initial attraction back into the consciousness of your target and it is also a fun and flirty text game to play.

Here’s an example from my phone:

Fox: “Saw sumthing that reminded me of you today.”
Pip: “What was that? Haha something funny? ^^”
Fox: “Just a small pair of converse all stars… I think they were for children.”

In this example the target was highly responsive. During the encounter I had commented on her small pair of shoes. We also talked about how much she liked Converse All Stars. The last message could also be considered a neg.

Another famous message to open your follow up with is:

“hey I forget to tell you something the other day…”

This is great because, again, it requires a response and creates intrigue. If the target wants to know what you have to tell her, she will need to respond. This can be followed up with a joke or compliment. I haven’t used a compliment but I know many guys will follow up this message with something like:

“I think you’re really cute! ”

These two messages are great to use. But most often I will actually open a lot more casually, throwing in a sly joke. Here is a recent SMS transcript from a Daygame pickup:

Fox: “Hey, how was your new year? (from cute guy on tram)”
Pip: I remember a computer geek with a towel obsession, hmmmm cute guy… let me think! Lol. New Year was great (after work), how was yours?”
Fox: “Guess I should do some work on my initial impressions… Are you busy tonight?”
Pip: “Don’t worry, one of the initial things I ask people is whether they have an adequate selection of towels and bath mats, so first impressions are through the roof! I am in fact on the way to work at t mo, I have a couple of night in the week free if you’d like to meet up and discuss toilet brushes and shower curtains?”
Fox: “Sounds perfect, I could use some advice with colour co-ordinating the shower curtains, bath mats and towels… What night are you free?”
Pip: “Hey, I jst finished work, after consulting the rosta I have tues, wed and fri off – any of those good for you?”
Fox: “Tuesday will suit… Dinner?”
Pip: “I was thinking more along the lines of a bathroom warehouse tour. Ha this joke will never wear thin! How did u know I’m a fan of food?! Sounds like a plan!”
Fox: “Be careful bathroom accessories get me really excited, it might be safer if I cook for you at my place (and maybe watch a doco on making bath mats).”
Pip: “Oh no I’ve already seen that one! Sounds good, I’ll bring some top of range backpacker friendly wind and hope that you weren’t brought up in a vineyard.”

In this example, the target leads me through to the date more than I lead her. It is difficult to get a much more receptive and responsive target than the one in this example. The messages continue much longer but you can see I already have the date. I found myself struggling to keep up with her excellent sense of humour during this follow up.

Flakes:

I find a lot of numbers from Daygame will flake. Accept this. You will also get a different ratio of responses than other guy on the lair. Do not compare yourself to other guys. You are on your own journey and learn to find text game that is natural to you and a set of results that is your own. The only way I find that is acceptable to deal with flakes is to get more numbers.

I am still learning follow up game and trying to learn to reduce flakes. These are the lessons that I have learnt so far. Like most things I have learnt in game, I learnt these lessons slowly and, with this article, I hope I can reduce your learning curve. I believe I am on the path to abundance and wish you the same.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 7:46 pm 
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won't she wonder who the heck you are if you send a random text like that 3-5 days later? Sometimes you just end up getting her number and not giving yours. In that case this article is not much help.


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I dunno, To me I've done day games three times at a coffee shop, all with numbers, being a student, uni is an easy day game target ground, but at a coffee shop it's a lot harder to approach. My secret with the day game at a coffee shop is, making it feel like the first date, be interesting, and you can go for 1-2 hours. That ways she'll be more comfortable giving you her number. And normally I don't give a time constraints on the text, but maybe this works well on us y-gen


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These are some pretty long texts dude haha. I'd say the key is Not to start it off with what your real intentions are.. as in don't initiate a convo w/ "Hey what are you up to tonight?" build it up and initiate w/ a joke or tease her from your last meetup.


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