Hi guys,

Bit of background first; My ex broke it off at the start of the year with me after 4 years. She's played all the games to keep me interested since and i've just been doing my own thing. I did slip up once and sleep with her but i've been good apart from that!

I've learned loads of stuff in here and # and k-closes are coming fairly easy and mainly stick to clubs and bars where i feel comfortable at the moment. Not to many f-closes though.

Was out a few weeks ago and met one of my ex's best friends. We'd never properly had a convo before but she was saying how she fallen out with my ex last week. Shes a HB10 and always has pro rugby players types and others swarming here. I changed the subject from the ex as quick as i could, got her laughing and real light kino with her hands and a few negs (as all she ever hears is how amazing she is, and she knows it). Made my excuses after 15 minutes and left with a girl friend wing to go to another club.

I spoke to her on fb chat the other night and there were a few guarded IOI from her.

The trouble is I think she's worried were playing with fire as my ex is a bit mental and she doesnt want to be seen as the one that come on to me. I don't know how to escalate it next time we speak. Do I say we should get a drink one afternoon or try and be somewhere that she is so it's a bit more natural? I also need to #close her at some point.

Finding this one a bit difficult as she is really hot and my ex's exfriend!

Any advice guys?

Flirt with her on facebook, so she get attracted. Then get into the high point of a very nice dhv story. then before SPAM the clue, say you have to go, but you will finish the story. Tell her to meet you somewhere. Then tell her to give her phone-number, as you will text her the time/day, cause you gotta check you schedual.


Since she is not friends with her anymore, I think you are good to go.

Thought #1 she is subconsciously (lets give her the benefit of the doubt) using you to get back at her friend your ex be wary.

Thought #2 If your ex is out of your life, would it matter, history between young single people that move within the same social groups is perfectly normal these days.

conflicting thoughts I know... just weigh it up yourself try factor in everything, dont leap to obey random forum posters like me

Thanks for the replies. I'll try with the flirting to a larger degree this time as I was more reserved than usual in the first chat as I wanted to see some IOI first and treading carefully in case they had made up and were friends again.

She might be playing that game subconsciously, but then again i might be doing it as well. Everyone of my mates has said this will end in a massive mess but i'm to intrigued by her to pass it by.

This was the tail end of our last chat:

Me: guys age better than girls so it'll be far worse for you!

HB:jezzz i didnt even think about what my rapid aging would do to my looks...this is terrible news. youre meant to cheer me up whilst i drown in coursework, not make it worse.

Me:I'll get myself in trouble if I say anything complementary...

HB:ha not really but maybe theres a middle ground between complementary and deeply depressing....who am i kidding, it probably entertains me more.

Me:how about this then; You look reasonably okay at the moment and I don't think you'll get much worse over time.

Is that better?

HB:hmm i think youre safe with that one, in fact its got to be up there with some of the nicest things anyones said to me all year... and i suppose if youve been nice i may as well may too, you look a lttle bit more than reasonably ok. dont expect this level of friendliness again though, it happens only a couple of times a year, takes away from the bitchyness otherwise. anyways i better hit the hay as tomorrow is another coursework full day. night night xx

Me: good luck. night x


How am i doing? Maybe I need to be a bit nicer to show i'm interested.