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 Post subject: Closing a Classmate
PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 10:41 pm 
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There's a girl I would like to escalate things with at college, either by # closing, setting up a date, or both. I've been working on her for the past couple of weeks now. She smiles a lot when we talk and laughs at all of my jokes. I've been busting her balls from day one and lately she's been trying to tease me back.

She's always complaining that she's tired, so a few days ago I bought a 5 hour energy shot and gave it to her this morning. I told her, "I saw this and thought of you. Here you go." I handed it to her, smiled, and jokingly said, "Let's try to keep it together today, huh?"

I would like to emphasize that i've clearly established being the alpha male in our classroom. I frequently joke around with our teacher. Whenever she needs help with something, she always asks me to assist her. When in group projects, everyone looks to me for guidance. I noticed today that every time I do something in class, nearly everyone in the room watches me.

I'm a bit confused about this girl, however. It seems like we have a connection, but every time I try to talk to her after class, she walks so quickly that it appears like she's trying to escape. One day last week, I decided to do an experiment and didn't talk to her after class. I wanted to see what her reaction would be to the sudden withdraw of attention. I made two observations:

1.) She kept looking back toward me out of the corner of her eye.
2.) When I started a conversation with another classmate nearby, she turned around and looked at me, but immediately turned back around and continued walking.

I'm wondering if, perhaps, she's shy. She's never mentioned a boyfriend either.

Today, I tried to talk to her again after class and I just spontaneously asked her, "So, what's the craziest thing you've ever done in your life?" I have trouble with the whole transition process in conversation, as i'm naturally a very random person. This is how the rest of the conversation went:

She looks at me with a puzzled expression on her face.

Her: "Um, I don't know. I can't really think of anything."

I playfully tease her, "That's so boring! Make something up then!"

She was flabberghasted.

Her: "I can't think of anything!"
Me: "Well, you have a couple of days until we have class again to think of something."

She laughs.

Her: "Oh, I do?"
Me: "Yep. I'll ask you the next time I see you and you had better have come up with something interesting."
Her: "You won't remember to ask me. You'll forget!"
Me: "That's not true. I never forget anything."

Do you all think there's anything to her last comment about me forgetting to ask her later? Perhaps a test of somesort? Maybe to see if I really do care about getting to know her?

Anyway, what should I do?

The Leading Man


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 12:56 am 
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i think that you have spent too long gaming this girl and should have number closed her already. it's good to joke around and tease her but from what i am reading i think that you're going over the top with the teasing. you got to have the right balance of positive and negative validation, if you tease a girl too much then you will be perceived as an ass hole. but gaming is not all about the attraction part with negs and teases, it's also about trying to connect with the girl by using your power of empathy, letting her know that you understand her and build an emotional connection.

it's obvious that she is really attracted to you, so as soon as you can:- build some sexual tension with kino escalation and get a number close/kiss close. perhaps she is shy and waiting for you to make your move. speculating whether there is a boyfriend as i always say "the boyfriend doesnt exist unless she says it exists". here are some of my notes on attraction, rapport and number closing.

one thing you should know is when to tease (push pull technique, negging etc). they should only be used if ur target is a 7.5 or above (or the girls who think they are 7.5 or above whereas in actual fact they are not). if you were to tease a girl below that rating, you would end of hurting and insulting them. in exclaimer for using negging and teasing is that one should positively validate their target before they negatively validate them. the reason to do it in this way is because one must hook their target in order to get their attention. so after the positive validation (for a set who is +7.5) you negatively validate them (tease, push) in order to put yourself at a higher level than them because at the beginning they are higher than you. the main reason why it is good to use negging is to challenge the ego of a girl of high calibre which is something that a typical afc does not do. and by doing this, it shows that u r a man that has high standards and does not go for just any girl and this will make the girl more interested and it will compel her to work harder to gain your approval because you have showed disinterest in her, told her that she does not fit your standards (negative validation). girls always want the guys that is surrounded by women and guys which are difficult to get, its a challenge for women to go after those guys.

building rapport is a very interesting process. in order to build a great emotional connection one must choose to talk about things which have deep emotional content. it does not matter what the girl does or likes, you can connect with her even if you have dissimilar interests. as you know all occupations and hobbies are completely different in their complexity, principles and structure, but there is one thing which all of them have in common/share "EMOTIONS". one must be empathetic and show a girl that u understand why she chose to do that job or hobbie by expressing the emotions that one feels when doing that activity, it shows that you're really trying to get to know her, and she will think "wow this is a great guy to talk to, he's making an effort to understand me, but wait, i dont know anything about him" and this will compel her to ask you questions and u can freely express yourself how ever much u want as long as u express urself passionately and positively. all the men dont do this at all and do not understand how much empathy is a powerful force and openly allow themselves to be perceived to see a girl superficially. you can use the concept of 'rapport' to ur advantage as well.

in order for you to build greater rapport with her, get used to asking more open-ended questions e.g. "what have you been up to?" or "What did u get up to today?", my one: "What monkey business did u get up to today?". dont use questions like "wats up hun?", thats a closed-ended question which the girl would simply answer and she wont give u much material to work on in order to reach the hook point.

and connect on her answers in a positive way. dont be afraid to tease her as well. dont be afraid to create impact. when telling a girl about a situation that happened to u on that day or in the week, give more details about it, women love details. it is also good to read the local news paper, women are usually very aware what happens in the world, u should as well. u can get her point of view on something in the news (nothing to do with which celebrity had sex with who) e.g. political, environmental, sociological etc and then she would ask you what u think and you can manipulate the conversation which can lead anywhere u want.

another way u can have an "endless conversation" is the principle of "Question, statement, Question, statement, Q, S, Q, S etc". so u ask an open question, receive the answer, and then make a statement about the last thing she said in order to ask a deeper question. this process can go round in a circle, it can go on for ages.

after you have the girl attracted to you and built rapport, here's how to make sure that you can get a definite number close and afterwards ensure a date in the future.

the way to ask a girl out is by 'offering' not asking permission, never ask "Do you want to go out tonight?" or "will you go out with me?" or "so what time are you free tomorrow?". They are all questions which AFCs do. they make a guy sound needy, desperate, dependent on doing something with her.

so before offering a date, let her know how busy and sociable you are. girls want guys who are difficult to get. usually in rapport with girls, to make sure she does not flake on u after the first meeting, there's a pua principle called 'seeding'. this is when u in plant an invitation in the conversation with her but u havent actually invited her. for example, you could say that "im thinking of going to this really cool bar sometime next week which i heard about". now usually when a guy mentions to a girl about going to a bar, club or party that u know, the girl will always expects the guy to automatically invite her. but what you would do is just to mention the party or the bar and continue on the conversation. this will catch the girl off guard and the girl will be thinking "hey, this guy is pretty cool (depending on the attraction and rapport), but he has just mentioned this party but why is he not asking me out?". she will think this and will be more compelled and desperate for you to ask her and she realises that she needs to work in order to get the invitation. women want to go to things that are hard to get into, exclusive and even more if they are told they cant go. people always want to go to things when they have been told they cant go. sounds so forbiden and interesting.

number close: dont say to her "Can i get your number?", be more commanding and say casually "Hey, i really need to get going, was cool meeting you, we should meet up sometime, whats your number?". this way sounds more positive, confident and you're assuming that there is going to be contact. depending on the rapport and the content of the conversation, to prevent her from not texting/calling you back, tell her you're going to place her in your phone under a nickname. usually when i tell girl when she's gets my number to put me on their phone as "Mickey Mouse" lol, this creates better impact.

dont be in the position to be waiting for a girl to call you, women are lazy or busy but definitely unreliable. you make the contact. but when u contact, dont sound like you are too eager to see her, bad sign to show that ur desperate. in between texting a girl, act like u dont care if she ever replies back. i know it sounds crazy, but it does not feel good waiting, checking ur phone every so often seeing if the girl replies. have the frame of mind that u dont care about a reply, then u will feel less anxious, and more focused on ur game.

after developing attraction and rapport on the phone or texting, you can say "it would be cool if you and i met up for a drink sometime. How about "BAR" on DATE at TIME". this sounds more commanding and confident, you're assuming there is going to be a meeting and you're making an offer not a request.

Hope that i have helped. happy gaming dude ;-)


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