... before I call/sms her first?

Background info:

This girl has been over to my house twice now. We made out on my bed both times and did everything but f-close, which is obviously my ultimate goal (girl is a virgin so doesn't wanna rush the sex).

Already established comfort and have continuously been sexually escalating with push-pull.

Girl told me on Monday she would call me during the week to catch up. I don't wanna seem too needy so how long should i wait before I msg her first?

And any ideas of what to say?

Thanks guys

Any text / call from you give her an edge. I dont know why woman think that way, but in my experience that kind of action will make her think. Is there any way you can get her attention?. May be u r on facebook / u could accidentally bump into her. Or may be a common friend could talk about you?

But you should wait for an expert advice. I m still in shackles of an AFC. All I have is tonnes of INFO on what will NEVER work.

Don't make it a big deal and call her if she doesn't in a few days. Then you will stop wondering and achieve results. If result is negative, then learn from your mistakes and move on. The important point is, sometimes we didn't do anything wrong and it just does not happen.

wait a weeks then send group text ( put her in group text ) seeing if people are up for going out to the cinema/night club etc. If she comes/responds she's interested if not then just move on.

After a week the spark will have died. Group things are great if they're coming up but you shouldn't count on them.

Call her about halfway through the week, with the aim to do nothing more than have a chat. You have to keep the spark, that's a rule. And as the male, you decide when you're going to call, you don't wait for her. Girls generally never call, even when they say they will. It's a big deal for a girl to make a move and convey interest like that - that's why guys take the hit and make the moves - it's their job as the protector.

So call her up, it might go "Hey how you doin" and she says "Good, what's up?" and you just say "Just calling to see how you're going - what you been up to lately?" and she'll talk about her week. Be sure to slip in a "you free to chat?" or if she sounds distracted "have I called at a bad time" or something of the sort - this is the polite thing to do when you call, and to bust in and start talking and be ignorant of what might be going on, sends a message you're desperate to talk.

The way she responds to those first few sentances will all depend on your inner game and resulting tone of voice. If she gets a bit vague and sounds like she needs to leave, no need to feel like the question "what you been up to" was silly - no no, it's the way you asked, which was silly. Work on your inner game.