dont want to have this happen with this girl, much help would be appreciated been studying pua off and on for 1 yr

if its too long to read, just read the last question/paragraph, thanks

her: 28, blonde (9), lives with her parents in rich part of san diego, funny, positive, has a job

met her at a bar, she was a friend of a friend in a big group out partying, i put in a little face time early, she immediately showed interest, i mentioned that i do real estate and she made it very clear that i should get her #, so i did, the rest of the night i gave her very little attn because everyone in my group and everyone in the bar was hitting on her. i did dance with her friend quite a bit. at the end of the nt she invites me and my friends to meet up the next day at a club she is going out with a bunch of her girlfriends.

next day: they all get there at 8:30, i show up at 11 and all the girls are wasted, the blonde gives me a hug and says something about how she thought i was the cutest guy she met last nt i laugh (first time that has ever happened to me), ignore her for next hour, then start dancing with her against a wall and we hit it off, tons of dancing a little bit of kissing, ice cubes on tits, walking down stairs backwards so she could grind her ass into me the whole way down, very fun and flirty, she is quite drunk and i am sober. night ends good i give her and some of her friends ride home. next day texts are positive but she admits she was way drunker than she has been in yrs.

i text her the next wknd to tell her im out and seeing if she is, she says tomorrow she will be and we should get together, i meet up with her late again hang out from 11pm-1am do the same thing, dancing and light kissing, no passionate kisses yet. she decides to leave early (her girlfriend ditched her) and i offer to give ride home, but she is insistent on cab.

next day texts me saying had fun, and so glad she got to see me again, i text her back saying same thing and ask what shes doing later and that if she is lucky i will call her since i missed her call the nt b4. that was 3 days ago, never heard back, plan on going at least a week maybe 2 weeks without contacting her if i dont hear anything.

if i do hear back i think i need to do some pushing, all pull no push so far. also, my next plan is to find something fun to do that isnt at a club, and invite her to do it. the only example of me negging her or saying no is she did ask me to go to vegas for halloween and i said maybe, then wk later said no im going to party at friends in los angeles.

my question is how do i get her to the next stage?? (past only dancing/grinding/pecking and get her back to my place) one challange is i live 30 miles east in not that nice of an area. also, i think i made it too obvious that i liked her that last night, and i think my last text was a slight mistake, if i was gonna call her i shoulda just called her to chat instead of telling her i was gonna call her.

thanks again! sorry it was long

Your ending confuses me. Did you tell her, "IF you're lucky, I"ll give you a call?" is that what it was?

still havent heard from her, unless u guys tell me different my plan is to wait at least a few weeks to text her because i think i might have shown too much interest. one reason she liked me in the first place was i was the only one in the group who didnt show a ton of interest.

the next morn she sent this exact text:

Hey sweetie...Sry i missed ur call last nt when i got home i passed the heck out! Woke up in my outfit from last nite and all! Wow! How r u? U get home safe?? It was so good seeing u again!

so at this point it looks like im still doin good, my response may have screwed it up, but maybe im reading into it too much, here it is:

Haha thats awesome u slept in that dress. Very fun nt! Spent $110 in 2 hrs and only had 3 drinks lmao. I made it home safe but nott til 430am.. What r up to tonight? Maybe ill give u a call latr when i get home, since u blew it and missed my call last nt

i spoke to a friend of mine who is very very good with women but hasnt studied any pua and his advice is to never text her again until she texts me or i accidently run into her. (odds of running into within the next month is probably 5-10% at most)

and if i run into her act like shes just a friend and be cordial at first. hopefully she will ask why i never texted her again and respond, "because i dont text people who dont text me back (in a confident smirky manner)" "im sure you are a very busy girl, so sugar muffin, how was vegas!?" or something like that

btw the first nt she asked me if she could be my sugar muffin lol and ive used it in a cpl texts and conversations too as her nickname.

p.s. just screwed up another date (with a diff girl) last nt cuz i couldnt figure out a good time to go for the kiss close, in retrospect i think my best chance was on the way from the bar/rest to the car. also realized didnt build enough sexual tension basically zero. and then by the end of the date when about to get out of the car it just seems akward and seemed like she wanted a hug lol, def got a lot of studying and practice to do

There's a difference between 'negging' a girl and 'being rude' to her. "I'll give you a call if you're lucky" or "Maybe I'll call you" falls into the second category...unless she is needy and is willing to take a lot of offending. Just my opinion. I may be wrong.

You have a good point though -- she seemed more interested in you when you weren't interested in her. Girls have their games too, man. And maybe in her eyes, this is going exactly how she wants it to go. Maybe it's a part of her game. I dont know...it's a tough call.

thanks for response, hmmm i never even thought of that, i think she knew i was kidding but maybe not, if that is the case then im still in good shape and shouldnt be enough to scare her away.

i think whats goin on is i showed a little too much interest and she is playing some games of her own like you said. plus we havent spent enough quality time to start texting often, i think i still have a good chance and she is waiting for me to make a good move, need to take her out somewhere other than a club to take it to the next level.

my main question is how long should i wait to text her? and when i do what should be my strategy.

i think im going to wait til halloween night and text (it will be almost 2 full wks of no contact) her something fun, maybe ask her if shes having fun in vegas and if she has a sexy costume and then after she gets back invite her out to do something fun other than going to a club. good idea?

I agree, I have a friend who USED to attract women, and he was very rude, he thought he was the man! But shit happened in his life and his value went down, and than negging stopped working for him, but he still thinks it does!! He doesn't understand what's going on, but the reality is, his value is gone, and he's still being down right rude, and NOT getting the girls.

Don't repeat his mistakes. :p