I used to be an AFC. I didn't dare anything. Now I'm older, I get much attention from women of all ages (say 19-45 yo). I master it all, the approach, NLP, holding conversation, being attractive, establish comfort, kino... I see many IOI's but...

I JUST CAN'T K-CLOSE.

I can't. It's a trouma from my AFC years.

I'm working a girl at the office and I have been working out a plan for weeks. Today we were isolated sitting on a couch, every bit of my plan fell in place and guess what? I got scared.

Fuck my life.

look dude im not trying to offend you when i say this but technically your still an AFC..

you will probs laugh at this but i suggest gamming ugly chicks i know it sounds stupid but my wing had a similar problem. so we started gamming ugly chicks just so that he could learn to kclose. it should nutralize your nerves... with out a kclose you can easily fall into the "friends" bracket ...

alternativly, if you have "girl" friends that you speak to and trust they maybe be able to kiss you up until you yourself are ready to Kiss a girl... i have 3 "girl" friends that taught me "kissing techniques" "how to make a girl come" and "positions that stimulate the clitoris" essentially to make me a better lover... not that i was bad or anything just to OPEN MY EYES to new experiences.

hope this helps, good luck

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You're exactly right, without the close I remain an AFC. And I'm working on the "ugly" chick routine already. That is, the girl at work is a HB9 and I have some 6 and 7's to work on. The difficulty is that I see the HB9 every day at work and for the others I have to make a planning. So the order is wrong; 6/7's and then HB9. Also, being colleagues with the HB9, I have to help her with things. If I play the PUA (creating desire by not helping), work gets a mess. So work pushed me in the friends box.

Practice, yes. First is a date next Thursday with a 7 and she is very easy (maybe even a slut but wtf), see what happens. Then I have a HB8 who is really into me. She invited me twice already but I had to reject. There's also a 6 from the lower floor at work, she almost k-closed me this week but I want to push and pull a little. So yes, I'm practicing.

Maybe I want to go too fast with the HB9. Also I realise that your mind feels if the time is right for a close. Maybe it's not my 'trouma' but simply the time is not right.

Thanks for the support!

good stuff mate!

i would even suggest going with a N/HB (HB below 6) have plenty to offer too hahahaa it sounds funny but "I SWEAR TO GOD" a fat chick taught my wing how to take off a girls bra with his teeth to this day he wont teach me hahaha its hilarious...

good luck
happy hunting

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any man can sweep a woman off her feet... he just needs the right broom - alex hitchens