I went on a date with this girl a week ago, met up at a bar. Got some good kino going and kissed in the parking lot as we were leaving, but she seemed like she was holding back. Set up another date Friday, exact same scenario. Tried to set up a movie at my place to physically escalate and she started hemming and hawing. Finally just asked her point blank what's up and she gives me this speech about how shit didn't work with her ex because they rushed into things and she wants to take things slowly and get to know me before we do date-like activities...

So I read this as she's just not that into me (she also might be emotionally unavailable, but I like to concentrate on what I can do). Could also be she's scared of getting attached to me. I get the feeling if I take shit slow, I'm going to end up in the friendzone and she's going to hookup with some other guy. My plan is to just ignore her and work some other angles. Maybe she'll come to her senses if I ice her out. Anyway, I'm open to other suggestions, too,which is why I posted this.

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lol give it 2 or 3 times to hang out.

She will probably sex you by the fifth time you hang out. I met a girl with a situation similar to this. Guess what happened the second date?

Girls just like to make sure they aren't being used by guys. Funny because girls are the biggest users of them all...

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Thanks for the response. I'm pretty spoiled by women, so I expect things to happen fast and that is what is screwing me up here. I'm sort of rushing things; I'm just not used to waiting more than a week for sex. Someone else also made me question my perspective and looking back at my behavior, I've been overly sexual without enough comfort. I'm sure she thinks I just want to use her for sex at this point, which is why she's running cold. It's not my intention just to make her a fuckbuddy, so I have to work on a little comfort. It's funny how I used to always have too much comfort and not enough sexuality when I was AFC.

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This happens to me a lot. I get really anxious and I begin to text girls too much, giving them texts that are too lengthy, etc.

I feel like its important to just be patient. Hard for me to do as well man, but we need to do it.

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I just hate waiting around, I'm not a passive kind of guy. Plus when I hook into a problem, I can't really ignore it, so I can't game a bunch of other girls without feeling like a left something unresolved. It's all good though. She came over tonight (did solid comfort building by playing chess, some harmless kissing) and it was her idea to come over again tomorrow, so I think she's getting well in hand. Shame on me for being insecure and reading her cautiousness as disinterest in the first place.

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Told you :p

I know exactly how you mean though. I always hate it when I feel like I did something wrong. I always over-analyze scenarios like you!

Hope it goes well tomorrow!

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Went well, escalated her to the breaking point but didn't put out. She was resisting escalating because she didn't want to lose her self control. I just escalated and backed off over and over and got her past all resistance. If I want to make a girl a girlfriend, I like her to know that I could've taken her down and just chose not to. Kind of a self-control, power thing. I won't go into detail, but it was fucking hot.

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